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[–] FJW@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I haven’t even had bottom surgery yet, but thanks to HRT my metabolism is much more in line with that of a typical woman than that of a man. Meaning that it is much more accurate to refer to me as a biological woman than as a biological man. So saying I’m the later isn’t just insulting, it is even scientifically incorrect. A trans woman who has received bottom surgery is in fact for pretty much all intents and purposes the same as a cis woman who has received a radical hysterectomy. Unless you call that kind of cis woman a biological man, doing the same to the trans woman is just as nonsensical.

And yes, this really affects pretty much everything: The treatment of things like brain tumors depends on biological sex and if you treat a trans woman like a man you are going to see the same bad outcomes that treating a cis woman like a man would have. Because again: Trans woman are (from a certain point in their transition onwards) biological women. Yes, it changes, get over it.

The reason to talk about amab/afab is specifically because they are the only terms that are reasonably consistent in all edge cases, except clerical errors.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Amab and afab are equivalent to biological male or female, just less explicit I suppose.

Would you still argue that you are more biologically female than male if you considered that your DNA in every bit of your body still has the male set of chromosome?

I'm not arguing against you, more so arguing that the distinction doesnt much matter and could be argued either way. I'd rather just take someone's word for it when they say who they are. Thats the whole point isnt it, acceptance?

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Thats the whole point isnt it, acceptance?

Right, and 'biological sex' is used as an exclusionary weapon that affects material policies.

Would you still argue that you are more biologically female than male if you considered that your DNA in every bit of your body still has the male set of chromosome?

There's people assigned female at birth with those chromosomes. Are they 'biologically male or female'? That's a rhetorical question. The point is sex assigned at birth is a more accurate term for what is put on people's birth certificates. Because sex assignment, and by proxy gender assignment, is based in sociology, not biology. And transphobes love using the argument from nature to justify real world policies and discrimination based on this sociological phenomenon.

If you're an ally, please listen to the folks living this and think critically about your own positions regarding these two terms. There's a lot of excellent literature on the topic and right now more than ever we need solidarity, not more skepticism.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

There's a lot of trans-medicalism in your post comrade.

A trans woman is a woman, full stop.

HRT and bottom surgery doesn't define a person's gender. Only affirm it.

That said, I do like pointing out to transphobes that I have less testosterone and more estrogen than my afab girlfriend thanks to gender affirming care.