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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Reminder that World War 2 had a gradual unfolding of declarations of war across several months or longer, depending on how you want to fuck that pig. I think we're already in the onset of WWIII, in some sense.

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 33 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The thing is, if NATO is worth anything at all. Hitting a NATO country would bring a lot of declarations in a very short order. It would get very WW3, very quickly.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago

Same way you go bankrupt; slowly, and then all at once.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

That's assuming Europe wasn't economically stretched already, and America didn't have an incoming president who wasn't more interested in fellating Putin.

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Even if there's financial concerns in Europe. We DO have reasonably strong airforces, modern weaponry and several nuclear enabled countries. I think it would be a big risk to take in their current position.

My main concern is Trump tries to coerce Europe to leave Ukraine to fight alone. It all depends on how much in Putin's pocket he is.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

He's so far in Putin's pocket that he's snuggling up to his nutsack.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 11 points 3 weeks ago

Europe isn't nearly so financially stretched as Russia, and its economy is an order of magnitude bigger.

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 7 points 3 weeks ago

Europe hasn't even started stretching. The fact it refuses to is the reason it looks stretched.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago

and America didn't have an incoming president who wasn't more interested in fellating Putin.

That is a bit of a wildcard, isn't it.

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

That's terrifying because WW3 risks the use of nuclear weapons and every model of nuclear exchange that has been run always escalates to mutual assured destruction with billions dead and the end of civilization.

I just finished listening to the audiobook of Nuclear War: A scenario by Annie Jacobsen. Highly recommend it.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

The real slippery slopes are graded much less steeply than you'd expect

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Civilization's kinda shit anyway. We had a ~~good~~ run.

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 2 points 3 weeks ago

gg guys, see you all next millennium.

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not sure we're on a path to WWIII if it's Russia vs everyone else. If China decides to get involved then maybe but I don't see any evidence they're willing to throw in with Putin, same with Iran.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago

Are we in the Spanish Civil War type pre-phase of WWII?

[–] M600@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is what I have been saying too. I think we will look back on this time and refer to it as the start of ww3.

Also technology is completely different than it ever has been. Like there was not a big tome or tech difference between ww1 and ww2. So a modern world war would look completely different making it difficult to identify.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

So far it's been lots more grenade drones and cyber warfare than you got in the 20th century. Asymmetry is the name of the game, aside from urban positional fighting and more traditional focus on logistics and supply lines.