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Cigarette-style climate warnings on food could cut meat consumption, study suggests
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this post was submitted on 01 Nov 2023
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Not really. The meat industry makes INSANE amounts of GHG emissions. Whataboutism surely won't solve climate change.
Calling something whataboutism won’t either. That’s just lazy and dismissive.
The CONSUMER is not going to make a difference. The change needs to happen on an industry scale.
Siiiigggghhhhh....
https://ourworldindata.org/emissions-by-sector
Energy production dwarfs everything.
Cattle don't produce any emissions.
How so? Cow farts? The grass is going to emit the same gasses whether it decomposes in a cow stomach or in the dirt. I guess the solution to carbon emissions is to pave the earth! No more organics polluting everything.
Not necessarily cow farts, but manure, fertilizer, and landscaping.
You're not wrong about the same gasses being created by decomposing grass and digested grass, but like most things, it's a multifaceted issue.
As they say, you can't get snakes from chicken eggs.
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Probably one of the best rebuttals I've ever read.
Truth be told the nugget about the same gasses being released from digestion and decomposition was news to me, so thank you for that. My knee-jerk reaction was to refute it but I realized that I truly didn't know for sure. So I checked, lo and behold, I was wrong, and now I've learned something today.
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Most cows eat soy which is produced on former rainforest grounds.
Additionally, we are better off eating/using what is produced on farmlands directly instead of feeding it to animals. That is much more energy efficient!
we do. what we feed to animals is mostly the parts of plants that people can't or won't eat.
That's just not true lmao. 90% of soy production is for animals. Not humans.
lmao
85% of all soy is put into an oil press. the byproduct of oil production is called soycake or soy meal.
that makes up the vast majority of the soy that is fed to animals.
So... What i said? Lmao what trap card. Your source doesn't say anything about "soy humans can't eat". It's just normal ass soy pushed into soy cakes.
"soy cake" is the industrial waste from the production of soybean oil. exactly what i said. also, your estimate of how much soy ends up as animal feed was off by a lot.
85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for people. that can't be true if 90% of soy production is for livestock. but i have the facts on my side. i'll accept your apology any time.
Ever heard of hyperbole? Lmao you can wait for a long time then. Here: https://images.app.goo.gl/UHHT7e7RxAhLVpCC9
I was right. you are wrong. it's not a matter of hyperbole. you were lying.
the oil is 20% of the bean. the oil is 50% of the value of the bean. the soybean meal is a by-product of oil processing. if we didn't feed it to animals it would almost entirely be wasted.
Jesus can you write one comment lol. Obsessed af. So by your own words there is 80% bean left, which we literally eat in the form of tofu for example. Your 50% value is abirtrary af aswell.
We literally farm more soy purely to feed livestock, which is retarded.
Bro even your own damn source with that image says: "But, only a small percentage of global soy is used for these products. More than three-quarters (77%) of soy is used as feed for livestock."
So no, it's not waste. It's most of the goddamn soy.
I'm not replying anymore, this convo is too stupid
no, we don't. some people eat soycake or soycake products, but very few. tofu is not made from soycake.
no, it's not. it's the market value.
i know what my source says, but do you understand what it means?
no, we don't. we farm soy because it rotates with corn and fixates nutrients. we also put 85% of the beans through an oil press to get the oil. only 7% is given directly to animals.
bye
soy is my favorite example
you've activated my trap card
No cows in UK eat soy.
Also idk about you, but I can't eat grass
cattle hardly eat any soy at all