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[–] Free_Opinions@feddit.uk -5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

Except that he did not tell people to inject bleach. That's misinformation.

Also, calling ivermectin a "horse dewormer" is disingenuous and saying he has made claims about dosages is a lie. Yes, it was originally intented for veterinary use but it was approved for human use too in 1987. People used to buy the paste meant for animals to treat a skin condition because at the time that was the only way to get ivermectin without a perscription which doctors would refuse to write them. That's where the horse dewormer narrative originates from. However, it's a legitimate drug (though ineffective against COVID) and to claim otherwise is just partisan thinking not based in reality.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

He never explicity instructed people to inject bleach, no. But he went on TV and suggested, as President during a press conference with doctors, that disinfectants might be helpful for internal infections. Snopes is being overly pedantic here. He fucking told people to inject bleach and we all watched it happen with our own eyes and ears. You are the one gaslighting here.

[–] gens@programming.dev 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

If it doesn't work on what you presribe it for, then it's not a drug for that. There is no partisaning in it. The Orange was president of one of the richest countries on this planet and he, full of confidence, said such stupidity that it hurts ( and whoever belived him did hurt, especially the dead ones ). He had an army of doctors at his disposal, including Army doctors, and he claimed things a homless guy down the street could tell you are fucking stupid. He's a great leader, that one.

[–] Free_Opinions@feddit.uk -4 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

How is this relevant? This isn't about wether ivermectin is a treament for COVID or not. It's about wether Trump has told people to take dangerous doses of it for which I can't find any evidence for.

[–] gens@programming.dev 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

If you had a vaginal yeast infection and the doctor told you "take an aspirine and you'l be fine", that doctor would be fucked. You can say "oh, but Orange is obviously not a doctor". But, again, he was in a position of authority, with enough resources easily at his diposal to know better. He is objectively so stupid that he is objectively harmful when put in a position of authority. And he proved it in a crysis when he said that a placebo is a cure and that doctors idk some stupid conspiracy or whatever. Do you understand ?

[–] Free_Opinions@feddit.uk 3 points 11 hours ago

he also told people to inject bleach and take dangerous doses of horse dewormer.

I'm not defending everything Trump has said about ivermectin. My argument is that this specific claim about telling people to take dangerous doses of it is incorrect. If you think I'm mistaken, then please provide me with the quote where he says this because I can't find it myself.

There was plenty false information about covid and the cures/treatments back then. "Masks don't protect you from the virus" "The vaccine gives you immunity" "Lab leak theory is conspiracy and xenophobic" etc. It was a moving target. We dealt with the information we had. Some of it turned out to be wrong, some right. I can't blame people for looking alternative treatments especially when for the longest time vaccines weren't even available.