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[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago (11 children)

the whole genocide thing

No informed voter thought Trump would be better for Palestine than Kamala. Remember, people say one thing publicly when their private reasons are actually less popular.

The conservative Muslims who claimed they loved Palestine voted for Republicans because they are conservative. They are using the Palestinian people as political pawns, just like Hamas. They share conservative values with Republicans based on cultural issues. They differ on the justification for it, but they are all supporters of hierarchy. Same with conservative Latinos.

It's not popular to say "I like hierarchy and I want to be on top". Many supporters of hierarchy claim they love "individual rights" when they really want privileges for themselves. That's the reason why some people love the "Bill of Rights" but hate equality.

[–] 7toed@midwest.social 6 points 1 day ago (7 children)

No informed voter thought Trump would be better for Palestine than Kamala

That doesn't change the dems abetting a regime currently committing a genocide. Don't forget over half the nation doesn't vote. It was never about changing already fixed or the elusive swing voters minds, it was about getting people out. Its a little harder to when the voter is aware of a moral conflict regarding their vote, regardless of your percieved political intentions of theirs. Are you doubting a significant amount of voters abstained? Because theres gotta be some reason trump had basically the same turnout while dems lost significantly.

It's not popular to say "I like hierarchy and I want to be on top". Many supporters of hierarchy claim they love "individual rights" when they really want privileges for themselves. That's the reason why some people love the "Bill of Rights" but hate equality.

I don't understand your point, is this in relation to conservative arabs?

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Because theres gotta be some reason trump had basically the same turnout while dems lost significantly.

I made this point elsewhere but it was also far easier to vote in 2020 (in swing states especially).

[–] 7toed@midwest.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That is true as well. My state still had mail in so personally I found it no more easier or difficult. Pardon for being shouldacouldawoulda, but in that case vote accessiblilty should've been a top priority for the dems after all of the 2020 bs.

In my humble opinion it was no larger a part than any other potential matter. I mean we're still counting and it has inched closer... nowhere to hope, but I genuinely believe if everyone turned out to vote, we wouldnt have to worry this stuff so much

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Pardon for being shouldacouldawoulda, but in that case vote accessiblilty should’ve been a top priority for the dems after all of the 2020 bs.

I think this really should be their goal, and they should trade things to get there. Like, who cares about needing an ID to vote, if you can use voter ID as leverage to get free national ID cards for everyone? (I'm not saying you can, but try?) Exchange president's day as a holiday for election day....make voting access an actual priority.

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