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Summary

The “Rogansphere,” a sprawling ecosystem of podcasts and online shows led by figures like Joe Rogan, has become a powerful cultural force for younger audiences, functioning as a “Fox News for the young.”

With its mix of anti-establishment rhetoric, distrust of Democrats, and casual conversations blending left-leaning and conservative ideas, it normalizes figures like Donald Trump for a disillusioned, lonely audience—particularly young men.

Democrats risk underestimating its influence, as this ecosystem fosters deep listener loyalty and has contributed to a significant shift in young male voters toward Trump.

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[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Yes because insulting the voter base is the way to win their votes. This is why we keep fucking losing. Instead of adjusting we call the voters lonely and stupid. Sounds like a sure fire way to win on the fence voters.

This article is essentially saying anyone that listens to these shows is the problem.

[–] Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tbf, anyone listening to Joe Rogan is stupid.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago

I listen to Joe Rogan

[–] NastyNative@mander.xyz 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They killed their chance with Sanders who had a better approval rate than Hillary and could have won that election. Thats when i realized the democratic party is GARBAGE.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

For me it was when they skipped their primary election, then adopted the slogan “Democracy is on the ballot”.

Like damn that is insulting. I’ve voted Democrat in every election in my life until this one, but I will not put up with gaslighting from anyone no matter how long our history.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This article is essentially saying anyone that listens to these shows is the problem.

Fascists are usually the problem, yea

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Now you seem to be implying that anyone who listens to podcasts is a fascist.

Do you ever just take a breath and hold off on what you’re about to say?

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Now you seem to be implying that anyone who listens to podcasts is a fascist.

No, I'm not, learn to read

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wasn't ambiguous at all, learn to read

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)
[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This, many people who voted for Trump weren't going to vote at all until Hillary called them deplorable.

[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

She didn't. If they weren't voting for trump she didn't call them deplorable. Also, she was referring to only a subset of trump voters. She said you could separate trump supporters into two groups, one was a basket of deplorables. They seem fine with "murderers rapist and thieves and some I assume are good people ", but "there are neo nazis supporting this man, we need to reach the non nei nazis on his side" is too far.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Regardless, the rhetoric is aggressive and alienating, the opposite of what a candidate who wants votes should be.

[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would agree that it was aggressive and alienating. Another issue is that it was extremely easy to take out of context, which it widely has been. It's so it of context that people who didn't know the context proudly labeled themselves as "deplorable" showing solidarity with David Duke. Never realizing that's who the original context was about. But it's hard to speak in a way that will never be taken out of context. "You didn't build that" for another example.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Did Hilary ever actually clear up the ambiguity though or did we have to give her the benefit of the doubt to a degree?

I dont quite understand what she had to gain from making the statement even if it was said different. She had a strange way of carrying herself thats for sure.

[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basket_of_deplorables

There wasn't ambiguity to clear up in context, but she did regret saying "half" of his supporters. She was clearly never saying all of them. Unless you remove the context.