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Texas Land Commissioner Dawn Buckingham offered President-elect Donald Trump a 1,402-acre ranch for deportation facilities.

The ranch, near the Rio Grande, is strategically located and has been previously used for agricultural purposes.

Despite claims of immigrants committing crimes at higher rates, data shows they commit crimes at lower rates than the U.S.-born population.

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[–] frezik@midwest.social 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Fascism never wins in the long run. It has to keep inventing a new enemy to keep people from noticing the fact that their policies aren't making anybody's lives better. This means it has to cut some people out of the in-group, and thus their base of support shrinks further and further.

Also, Trump is 78 years old, in poor health, and eats a lot of McDonalds. Going by the social security administration actuarial table, a 78 year old man has a 5.3% chance of keeling over in the next year. For him, it's probably a lot higher than that. Projecting out his next term to when he's 82, he has about a 30% chance of dying by then going by SSA numbers.

The only question is how much they fuck up before it gets to that point. They can fuck up quite a lot. The OG Nazis burned their whole country to the ground and took most of Europe with them. But they lose in the end in some way or another.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You think Vance and company won't be right in there behind him to continue things? Trump laid out the populist approach, the only reason others have failed is because MAGA is personally loyal to Trump. Of course there would be a PR struggle to win that loyalty but someone like Vance or DeSantis is going to win it and then we're still in the same boat. Trump's popularity isn't an inherent trait, in person he's widely reported to be a narcissistic idiot. He's a built personality, after him they'll just build the next one.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump’s popularity isn’t an inherent trait,

It is, actually. Fascisim is about The Guy. It is only about The Guy. Everyone else is expendable. Vance will not pull the kind of support that Trump can, and neither will DeSantis.

You can see this in how people voted. There are a bunch of states this cycle where Trump won their EC votes, but a Democrat won a statewide election. What appears to have happened is that a whole lot of people marked Trump on their ballot and walked away. There's no push to support anyone other than Trump.

The Germans kept fighting until Hitler offed himself. Then they capitulated almost immediately. Italy was done as soon as Mussolini ran away; almost all fighting that continued to happen inside Italian territory was with German units, not Italian.

Vance would try to take over, but he can't conjure up the kind of loyalty Trump has. The MAGA brownshirts are behind Trump enough that news media figures and politicians are fearing for their own safety. That dissolves the moment Trump is gone.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

The Germans absolutely did not. They were surrendering in droves well before Hitler killed himself. The government did not officially surrender but everyone knew it was over. And fascist extremists continued to fight well after he died.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nope. They don't have personalities like Trump. Trump has been a known name since before I was born. Vance? DeSantis? They can't replicate the cult of personality. They might thing they can, but that's the thing about cults. Once the head of the snake is off, it stops acting like a snake

And more like a gross belt

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

That's the popular idea but it's not a one to one analogy. MAGA is also a political movement that thinks it's rebelling against Washington Insiders. That's why he's replaceable.