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Ok.
Do it.
The overwhelming problem is that the Dems tend to hold their members accountable while the republicans absolutely DGAF and happily keep literal criminals in their ranks.
She’s basically acknowledging there’s plenty of dirt, but the only offenses they’ll care about is their opponents’.
Even if the democrats weren't actually holding their members accountable, it should be done. So what if dozens of politicians, both R and D get expelled as a result. Nobody should be upset that people who had bad ethics reports get expelled.
It would be ideal if both sides held their members accountable equally. My point was that this isn’t the case.
We know of some democratic lawmakers who have been held accountable, and a very small number of republicans. But, really we don't know whether what we're seeing is the norm, or if it's just a tiny fraction being held accountable. It's possible that there are more democrats that are committing unethical acts, but that they're better at hiding it and/or have more complicity in covering it up. But, I think most sane people would say that everybody's ethics violations should be public information. Even if it means hundreds of congresspeople losing their jobs and massive uncertainty in who will hold power. Ethics violations should be something voters get to know about.
Oh FFS. Your premise is that the dems are bad because they might be hiding evil stuff, or they’re better at hiding it, so that makes them just as bad as the republicans who get actually get caught?
Give me a break.
I already laid out what the problem is with republicans and how ethics are essentially meaningless to them when it comes to holding themselves accountable, but they freak out over tan suits, so I really have no clue what your point is.
Wow, you're like some kind of cultist. Any criticism that might apply to democrats and you come out swinging.
My premise is that we don't know what ethics violations have been suppressed by either party. We know that both Republicans and Democrats have been found to have violated ethics, but we don't know whether it's the majority that have been exposed or if it's just the tip of the iceberg. If it turns out that the Democrats have never suppressed an ethics violation then maybe they do live up to your mental image of them and are pure as the driven snow. But, it's also possible that the democrats have protected some members.
That doesn't mean that Republicans are better than Democrats or something, it just means that politics is politics and sometimes people in power get away with things. But really dude, you should cut back on the hero worship. These are just politicians, they shouldn't be your whole identity.
This is your premise. Democrats are possibly evil too, and that's what you're basing your argument on.
There's no hero worship here, it's objectively true that democrats punish their members more than the republicans do by a long shot.
My premise is that people are sometimes corrupt and that power corrupts. There are democrats in power.
Are you really so much in a cult that you can't believe that your side could possibly be anything less than pure?