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Summary

Trump’s popular vote share has fallen below 50% to 49.94%, with Kamala Harris at 48.26%, narrowing his margin of victory.

Trump’s share of the popular vote is lower than Biden’s in 2020 (51.3%), Obama’s in 2012 (51.1%) and 2008 (52.9%), George W. Bush’s in 2004 (50.7%), George H.W. Bush’s in 1988 (53.2%), Reagan’s in 1984 (58.8%) and 1980 (50.7%), and Carter’s in 1976 (50.1%).

The 2024 election results highlight Trump’s narrow victory and the need for Democrats to address their mistakes and build a diverse working-class coalition.

The numbers also give Democrats a reason to push back on Trump’s mandate claims, noting most Americans did not vote for him.

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[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 35 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Actually only 50% of us support the fat pedophile fascist.

[–] lemmingthelemmers@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (3 children)

It's way less than that. Like 35% of eligible voters did not vote.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 20 points 4 days ago

Only 33% of eligible voters actually voted against Trump. 66% either agree with him or don't care.

[–] NotBillMurray@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yup, just 71 million or so goddam people voted for a narcissistic grifter felony with daddy issues. Fuck.

[–] lemmingthelemmers@lemmy.world -4 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Or 71 million people voted against democrat corruption and the fact that they do not represent the working class.

[–] soupuos@sopuli.xyz 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

By voting for blatant corruption instead? And tax cuts for the rich is not a policy representing the working class.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

They didn't say that they were making a good decision voting against Dems, just that it was a decision.

Yes, a bad decision, but that shouldn't need to be said to anyone with regularly firing neurons.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago

They voted for disruption. And that's the one thing trump is good at.

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Maybe a percentage of those votes were because of this, but you can't actually believe that 71 million people voted for him because he somehow represents the working class better than the dems would. The vast majority people who were protesting the dems not representing the working class, did so by not voting or voting 3rd party, not by voting for Trump.

99 percent of those people voted for Trump because of 3 reasons: Racism, Misogyny, or ignorance. There is a fourth group of rich voters who voted for him to line their pockets, but they are a miniscule portion of his votes. This fourth group mostly just invests money to encourage the racist, misogynistic, and ignorant ones to go vote.

[–] lemmingthelemmers@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You should look into the Trump/AOC voters and their reasons why.

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have read about them, but the crossover between people who voted for Trump and AOC is so small, though. Its nowhere close to the total 71 million who voted for Trump.

Look at their reasons. There is major crossover on reasons why people voted for Trump.

[–] NotBillMurray@lemmy.world -3 points 4 days ago

Ah yes, that's why they did it. I'm sure that's exactly why they voted for the, as stated previously, narcissistic etcetera etcetera. Get the fuck out of here.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

And in not doing so, they objectively supported him, whether they're too braindead to know or not.

[–] lemmingthelemmers@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah like those people who voted for the people actively funding a genocide that somehow believe the vote they were casting was for less genocide.

That is an amazing brain trick.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

this is my favorite israel palestine talking point, instead of actually doing something about the issue, or like, discussing actual things actually happening, people just bitch and moan about semantics instead.

Who gives a fuck whether or not voting for kamala was a vote for genocide, or whether or not abstaining, and therefore helping trump get elected was also a vote for genocide, go do literally fucking anything for the cause.

[–] lemmingthelemmers@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I agree with that, but this is a political discussion on a messageboard so that's what is haplening here. This is what lemmy is for.

i guess so, but i would much rather talk about the things actually happening, and have fruitful discussions with people who have significantly more knowledge about these things than i do. But people would rather just concern troll instead i guess lmao.

[–] bunchberry@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You are claiming that Trump automatically wins if nobody votes. That's objectively not how US elections work. He still has to get the plurality of votes to win. People who do not cast votes don't automatically support Trump, it just doesn't sway the election at all. Please stick to the facts and not to the fake news. Election misinformation is not cool.

[–] PhAzE@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago

Yea but he has 100% of the control now so it doesn't matter unfortunately.