this post was submitted on 12 Sep 2023
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Too soon.
Could we do it on a day there is not a shooting?
Soooo…never?
Sadly.
I really want a day without a school shooting.
What about weekends?
Good point.
Just searched for "Sept 10 2023 school shooting" and that appears to have been a day without a school shooting.
Looks like a person (not a student) was shot on school grounds, but from an incident miles away. I do not understand the school to have been in session (in fact I am unclear the shooting was on school grounds, versus the school being the nearest landmark.)
(Honestly, I am trying to emphasize what a shit pile of school shootings we have.)
For the purposes of my objection, I do not object to weekend posting.
There is a park in my neighborhood that is right next to an elementary school, and the parking lot for the school is right next to the playground part of the park, so on weekends a lot of people park in the school parking lot to go to the park, it's conceivable for a shooting to occur "on school grounds" on a weekend...
As an aside, what's more American than driving to your closest neighborhood park?
Huh, you're right! Also that makes me think of a very good solution to school shootings that somehow nobody is talking about, why don't we just ban schools? If kids aren't going to school in the first place then they aren't going to get shot there. It's so simple!
Who is telling you we have them everyday?
Uh, the news. According to GunViolenceArchive (link here ) who are not themselves necessarily a reputable source but do gather their information from relatively reputable sources, mostly police records and government sources, they actually don't have one listed for today! Hooray! But there was one yesterday in Florida and three more the day before that in Michigan, Indiana, and New Jersey.
Days without shootings do happen but are shockingly rare. Just take a look at the list there.
No they do not get their sources from gov and police records. They pull them from local news sites and blogs.
And 95% of the shit on here is gang/drug violence and most are not killed. It's not just school shootings, which rarely happen. Even the AP says we have only had 15 mass school shootings since Columbine. And Motherjones even called these stats out.
Do we have a violence issue? Yes. Is it because of the gun? No. Our society needs fixing. There are a ton of things we can do that would have a way larger and more positive effect than trying to ban 450+ million firearms.
Just this stuff would do %1000 more to curb all our violence than banning firearms:
Ending the War on Drugs
Ending Qualified immunity
Properly funding our schools and not just rich white suburb schools.
Build more schools and hire more teachers for proper pay so the class room sizes aren't 30-40 kids for one teacher.
Single Payer healthcare
UBI (at least start talking about it) once AI takes over most of the blue collar jobs.
End for profit prisons
Enforce the laws already on the books
Make sure there are safety nets for poor families so the kids don't turn to violence/gangs to survive.
Increase the minimum wage
Recreate our mental healthcare so kids don't turn to the internet for support. And to help veterans not end up as a suicide number.
Actively make a law to solidify Pro-choice rights. More unwanted children do not help our situation.
Banning Insider Trading for Congress
Term limits
Ranked Choice Voting so we can move away from a 2 party system
They are just behind. New one today.
Nothing on that site claims that it's "school" shooting. Just "Mass Shootings".
The simple answer is that they don't happen everyday...
Right... So where on that site does it say there's a school shooting every day? Where on the source site that they were discussing (https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting)... does it say that as well?
@MNByChoice added relevance by stating that there was one for that day... They're just behind. So where's Monday? Last Week? The Week Before?
I looked at the site. I didn't walk away with the idea that there's school shootings every day. Virtually ALL of the recorded figures that I saw for weeks on end were 18+ and didn't appear to be around schools.
What happened today?
Shooting in Louisiana USA