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[โ€“] socsa@piefed.social 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

And i am saying that forcing people to confront the evil they voted for in no uncertain terms is part of the solution. People will find it much harder to bury their head in the sand if that means choking on blood.

I personally do not think the average voter who was upset that eggs cost $4 will stomach even a small amount of violence, and if there is actually a path back it requires snapping these people back to reality. But I don't intend to be a martyr. I don't think Trump actually has the balls to mow down peaceful protesters on the national mall, and I don't think anyone who takes orders from him does either.

[โ€“] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I think you're in denial. He will round up undocumented immigrants and Latino citizens alike. He will commit organized violence against his Republican enemies, let alone any Democrats that stand in his way. He will create a special unit in the FBI to serve as his personal Gestapo. He's planning to do this all without any help from the House or Senate. If you've been paying attention to Project 2025 or his current cabinet picks, you should know this already.

If we're lucky, the cops in blue states like California might not do his bidding because the corprocrats pay them well. If we're unlucky, they'll just do what he wants because they're already MAGA. In the situation where we're lucky, the cops in blue states will resist the national guard and federal agents, leading to a weakening of both sides. If we're unlucky, they'll be as ruthless against protesters as the cops in red states.

In those crackdowns, fascist brown shirts will make the pro Israeli vigilantes that attacked pro-Palestinian protesters look benevolent. They'll lynch people without mercy, wearing white hats and swastikas, while the police generally let them. We must confront the evil, but peaceful protests will be off the table.

People will unfortunately learn that the hard way, and the news will not reach many Trump voters. They'll just think it was the "usual antifa nonsense," seeing us as the instigators regardless of what we do. Even liberal outlets can't be counted on, as Trump will convert or go after them to the cheers of his supporters.