I was banned from /r/Latestagecapitalism for not agreeing with "China good", tried to explain the opposite: "China bad ≠ America good". They didn't care.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Yeah it’s annoying when any criticism of Occupied China results in them talking about America

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

What the living fuck are you talking about 'occupied China'

that is the most brain broken anti-historic nonsense I've ever heard. The CPC is literally the result of decolonizing themselves. It was occupied until then. Not to be cliched but crack a fucking book holy shit

[–] DerKommissar@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well given how Lemmy is mostly American ultra-leftwing it's weird when they talk about changing China when they can't even change their own neighbourhood, or even their own home.

[–] Taalnazi@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Eh, Lemmy isn't that left wing. It's just normal left.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago

Depends on the instance, Lemmy ranges from liberal to Anarchist to Marxist. Most instances lean in one of those major directions, or at most 2.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Drag noticed something after the election: All the non voters say it's not their fault, because Kamala is more to blame. They think blame is a limited resource. They think you can only blame either the DNC OR the voters, not both.

It's the same as with China. They think if America is bad, then China has to be good. If there's evidence of China being bad, the counterevidence is that America is worse.

Tankies think only one thing can be bad at a time. It's the same with genocide, too. We can't care about Ukraine and trans people and West Bank, because WhAt AbOuT gAzA.

The tankie mind only has room for one single bad thing in each subject. Only one bad genocide. Only one bad empire. Only one bad politician. They can't conceive of two things being bad at the same time. It does not compute. When they say they understand two things being bad, they're lying. They can only understand it in short term memory. They can't internalise it and apply it to long term memory. Fifteen seconds after they admit two things can be bad, they forget it. It's like clockwork. "America and China are both bad... 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15... China can't be bad because America is bad! I'm not to blame for Trump's win because Kamala ran a weak campaign! Gaza is the only genocide that matters!"

[–] DerKommissar@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

When you have the same energy for the ongoing genocides of both the Native Americans and the Black descendants of slavery in America that you have for Ukraine or bearing water for Israel, apparently, that's the day I believe these four paragraphs of uninvestigated drivel isn't projection and cope

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15... and you've forgotten that two things can be bad again. Drag said genocide in West Bank is bad, so you assumed drag doesn't oppose genocide in Gaza and must support Israel. It's like clockwork.

[–] DerKommissar@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Since I know you're gonna be a pedantic little weasel about this otherwise, here's my list of things that I consider 'bad', to minimize and compartmentalize my views into your narrow little field of cope: any and all nations that profited, from the colonial age to modernity, off of the trade of African slaves, or off the extraction of resources from a motherland they have already spent 400+ years fundamentally violating. America, Europe, Spain, Portugal, France, every single fuckin' one of the Nordics, all of them.

Beyond that, I consider all settler-colonies said white settlers have spawned since the colonial era 'bad'-- which is to say, Israel too. I think you'll find that's a great deal many more than just two-- they're just not the people you want me to be sharpening a spear for.

And westerners-- American, european, doesn't matter which-- have not given me reason to extend the benefit of the doubt in over a year that they aren't zionist settlers or waterbearers for such. After all, most westerners are settlers themselves; and birds of a shit feather often flock together.

Fact of the matter is, our definitions of "imperialism" are two different definitions. You crutch yourself on the ignorant neoliberal definition, that "anti-imperialism" is just "against ALL empires"-- a naive, idealist stance. MY definition of "anti-imperialism" stands against the settlerdom I have been forced to live under the thumb of, all my life.

You are manifestly unserious.

[–] RealistAF@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is China also killing people in the middle east?

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 days ago

imperialism is when the middle east, because everyone knows that only one country can be bad at once and america runs a monopoly on genocide

go read a book, I'm done with talking to you illiterate morons incapable of understanding any sort of nuance