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[–] AngryMob@lemmy.one 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

What exactly do you want me, the average white guy to do? Hang myself in the street because my ancestors were assholes? I acknowledge they were assholes and they built a system that fucks you over. I, a powerless cog in the machine, treat everyone with the same respect i expect for myself. I vote democrat because the alternative is worse for both of us, yet you still hate me. Okay.

[–] JayDee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

I understand your issue. No, don't hang yourself. You'd just get replaced immediately by another person 'just following orders'.

It's true that we're all virtually powerless in 'the machine', but as the analogy would put it, it is via all the 'powerless cogs' that the machine is able to crush and destroy at all. You shouldn't kill yourself, but instead should malfunction so as to damage the machine's ability to crush, or to change it's function entirely.

Education is one part, and the best education is realizing what you've been deprived by uncle Sam. You have no power because you've been deprived of what gives you power: privacy; community tied only to mutual uplifting instead of hobbies or less vital matters; a well paying job by which you could actually have meaningful effects on society around you; time unburdened by work or distraction, through which you can self-actualize and forge meaningful bonds; housing which you own, giving you security from undue raises in cost of living and protection from undue eviction.

The second part is community forming, mutual aid, and counter-establishment activism. That and not excluding others based on race, gender identity, homeland, or cultural differences (that's the rub for many). Essentially, rectifying your ancestors' mistakes is the same as uplifting ones own situation outside of society's predefined means, and uplifting everyone alongside you.

[–] Confidant6198@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

> What exactly do you want me, the average white guy to do?

To join socialist organizations that try to destroy capitalism and end white supremacy, and to learn critical race theory and stop this bullshit victim complex that you have whenever anyone calls out the privilege of your group and how your group just fucks everyone else.

> I acknowledge they were assholes and they built a system that fucks you over.

Not just that. They keep upgrading that system to makes it worse and worse for non-whites. white people benefit from white supremacy which they enforce with systematic racism, hold almost all of the wealth of the country, hold the vast majority of the positions of power, are the least likely to be incarcerated unjustly while are the most likely to incarcerate black and brown people unjustly and tend to vote right wing and right wing policies against marginalized groups. Also they own the most amount of stolen land from native people and refuse to give it back. They are the ones who vote against constructing affordable housing in their neighborhoods to keep marginalized groups away, while they keep enjoying the land that they stole. They refuse to give reparations to marginalized groups. They refuse to give the descendants of slaves the plantation land that they worked on. And they recently voted against ending prison slavery.

Hang myself in the street because my ancestors were assholes?

This is literally the most bullshit thing reactionary say to avoid any fucking accountability. You don’t hang yourself. You join Marxist organizations that work towards ending white supremacy, work towards giving the land back to native Americans and to give reparations to black people. But that is hard so you of course won’t do it. It is just so easy to whine that minorities just hate you and do nothing for them because that is the path of least resistance and you can keep benefiting of your white supremacy.

Why don’t you say: I know that my ancestors were demons so I work on orgs to prevent immigrants from being deported, that prevent black people to be unjustly incarcerated, that work for indigenous rights and tries to get rid of white supremacy by destroying capitalism

You won’t because it is so easy to throw a tantrum and complain from your position of privilege saying that you vote Democrat like if the democrats give a shit about anything while they make a genocide, and you call it a day.

That is just typical white complacency and that just does nothing more than to suit your ego for you to have peace of mind while you keep your privilege that your ancestors gave you with war crimes and your group currently maintains with immense violence and oppression against marginalized groups.

[–] AngryMob@lemmy.one -1 points 2 days ago

So everyone that doesn't put their life on hold and join you in protest is your enemy. Got it. Enjoy having very few allies. That's not how you win people over or start any sort of movement. Sympathizers are valuable to your cause too. Maybe you'll notice that eventually.