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[–] Sporkbomber@lemm.ee 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Or just use a gasket like subaru's did/do. I had frameless doors in ~2000 with no electronics required.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Yeah they have water leak issues though (which auto lowering windows don't as they're sealed like in framed doors) but they've had that setup for ages.

[–] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Do they? I've been driving Subarus for over 25 years. Up until my newest one (a 2020 model) they all had the gasketed frameless windows, and I never had problems with water leakage. I suppose if the gaskets are old enough or exposed to UV enough they could wear out and need to be replaced. But that seems like a wear and tear issue and very minor in comparison to a potential deathtrap design.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's been in a known issue with Subarus forever, that and wind noise, there's even DIY guides where it's just people pushing the top of the window to bend the frame a bit to make it seal better!

[–] rhythmisaprancer@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

people pushing the top of the window to bend the frame a bit to make it seal better!

This is what causes the issue to begin with. Close the door with the door, not the window. That has been a known issue for decades.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

I don't disagree, but it wouldn't be an issue if Subaru just used the same solution as all other manufacturers...

[–] rhythmisaprancer@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I never experienced that with a Subaru I had ~15 years ago. Not even in a car wash. There may be a reason, but I dont see how this could be it. Maybe wind noise?

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

With the window not being sandwiched in a gasket with time the seal between the window and the gasket isn't as waterproof.

I think the difference between then, and now, is that the average Subaru driver 15 years ago had a different skillset. I don't remember this being discussed on forums then, but folks did replace seals. It's normal maintenance on that type of window. It isn't an "issue," although we could argue it is a "feature" haha.