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[–] turtlepower@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Humans have always been, and always will be, garbage.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This isn't garbage, this is good banter.

A bored guy engraving runes at an height of 3.8 meters just to mess with the next guy reading it, an artist or worker sculpting his name into a work, ordered by the class in power (church) just to give the finger to the clergy, Mozart creating a piece to get revenge on the rich class that held him prisoner to work on what was asked to him instead of having liberty to create as he pleased...

Good, old fashioned, rebellion.

[–] turtlepower@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm talking about the destructive graffiti. That's not rebellion, that's shitting things up. It's why we can never have nice things—because some asshole(s) just have to destroy shit. I love good street art, but that shit is just marking shit up to be an ass. And if you think that shit's ok, you're an ass, too.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Tagging is a form of urban cancer on its own. Full stop. But depending on what is writen, the border between reactionism and vandalism blurs.

I grew up in a very urban setting, after a political revolution, and the graffiti on the walls were words of anger, of calling out those who had cooperated with the old regime, slurs, etc.

Every word, line, trace, was disfiguring the buildings, statues and whatever surface it landed on but carried meaning, a message.

The Pompeii graffiti were gratuitous in nature but it was a city and part of a civilization know for being prone to excess. Today, those graffiti are living testaments of our colective history, although not much diferent from common and crude public bathroom scribbles.

[–] turtlepower@lemm.ee -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You downvote me because I differentiate between trash tags and actual street art? Not all street art is sanctioned, but there is street art that is technically vandalism, but it's still good art that brings some color to an otherwise drab concrete jungle. In any case, it can be removed, but carving shit in isn't so easy to fix.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I didn't. I don't care about the votes system; you engaged me in conversation, I replied, let's keep going. Does not care if we disagree on our views, we're discussing ideas and that matters by itself.

You're right. The value of anything, especially art, resides on the eye of the person looking at it, so, at this point, I will admit defeat on my previous argument.

[–] turtlepower@lemm.ee -2 points 1 month ago

Seeing as how there are more at this point, it must be the assholes that do such things being butthurt. Be mad, bitches.

Anyway, we don't totally disagree. You're spot on about Mozart! Fuck the clergy. And fuck being a slave to anyone. In the words of Killer Mike, "kill your masters".