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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 148 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Are ya'll ready for how fucked we are? None of this shit is getting fixed, considering we're still living with Reagan's damages.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Maybe I’m naïve, but I’m hoping their overreach is so bad that the pendulum aggressively swings back in the other direction.

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago

Eventually. It will. How long? That's impossible to say. As is how bad it will get before a correction occurs. Hitler was in power for twelve years. 70-85 million people died during his reign between slaughters and fighting. And Germany was not the strongest nation in the world (and definitely not the strongest by a wide margin) at that time. Imagine Germany starting off 1933 with the military might to fight two wars at once with the two strongest nations on the planet. And imagine their border was basically impenetrable by any combined force of countries while they fought those two wars. That could easily be where we're going to be at. No one is coming to save us.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think you underestimate the rippling damage that four years of Trump loyalists running the HHS, FDA, CDC, EPA, DoE, CIA, FBI, etc. can do to the world.

That’s on top of the damage from rapidly repealing regulations by the President.

Even if we replace the whole government with progressives, it’ll take decades to fix, assuming we survive that long.

[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tariffs alone will probably lead to a very bleak outlook for Republicans in the midterm elections.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Maybe the opposite. Biden’s policies turned the economy around. All the numbers look good and were poised for growth that Trump will take credit for

How quickly and widely will he actually apply tariffs? If they don’t take widespread effect for two years, they’re home free

That'd be nice and I'm sure sentiment will swing but I don't think they'd go through all this trouble of remaking the government (and essentially the whole country) just to get "voted out" and have to spend billions more regaining power. It'll be way cheaper just to rig things.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's kind of why I don't think the RFK stuff is actually going to happen. Trump can sell the economic populism stuff but he lost in 2020 because of anger over public health. Letting RFK be crazy is just going to cause headaches.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Trump will just take no responsibility. He'll blame RFK Jr for all the things that go wrong. Maybe he'll eventually get fired but at that point the damage will already be done. Trump will just say "Ah, he screwed me, I would have done the exact same thing but it would have worked, I'm a smart guy, I'll fix it or appoint someone else to fix it." And then it won't be fixed.

So if RFK Jr. is smart he'll just do a little bit of damage over time. Alternatively if there is a ton of chaos on day 1, then just add to the chaos. People can only be angry at so many things at one time.

We'll still have the same health care as we do now. It'll just be way more expensive and inaccessible to anyone but the rich or party loyalists. Basically "join us or die... slowly."

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What till you see the Liberty Law School zealots who find their way to SCOTUS for lifetime appointments