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[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 27 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Unpopular opinion: blaming the voters is counterproductive. It's important to understand why they voted (or abstained) the way they did.

Yes, some percentage of voters are indeed racist, sexist, homophobic, etc. But hypothetically, another percentage are people who were unhappy because of economic reasons and felt they were presented with two bad options:

  • an unreliable candidate who acknowledged they were unhappy
  • an unknown candidate who said they were wrong and should just be happy

Is this hypothesis correct? I don't know, but just assuming the voters are ignorant, or just saying that leopards will eat their faces, isn't productive.

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

But the ongoing theme is that “voters voted on the economy” and if you do just the smallest, tiniest bit of research of on one of those magical rectangles we all have in our pocket it’s blindingly obvious that Trump is probably going to screw it all up.

It’s like everyone turned on Fox News for half an hour and went “yup, this is our guy.”

We can blame crappy education, but my barely functional public school at least taught us to do our own research at least to some degree.

I’m not saying the campaign was perfect, but we have to assert at least some effort on the part of the voters — how do you vote for someone only having seen the news or a manufactured social media feed, c’mon.

[–] finderscult@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, most people decided neither option was good enough. Trump destroyed the economy, Biden finished it off. Harris lies to voters and said they were better off than they were under Trump, which isn't true for any group of voters.

So if Harris doesn't even see a problem, she's not going to help. Trump is a liar but at least sees there's a problem. At worst nothing changes regardless of who gets in office using this reality. At best maybe Trump accidentally does something good.

Harris, by deciding to lie about the Biden economy and ignore the economic reality the majority of Americans are experiencing, effectively eliminated herself as a candidate. She explicitly and implicitly stated she doesn't care about and will not improve economic conditions.

Harris ran the same campaign as Clinton, plus genocide. She failed worse than Clinton. It was predictable, guaranteed really.

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 4 points 2 weeks ago

Well the economic reality will be improving in the next 6-12 months, right after Trump takes power.

This is what always happens: some Republican becomes president, trashes the economy then when Democrats take power they’re on cleanup duty. But of course the results take longer than four years, so another idiot is elected into office and the pattern starts all over again. Republicans take credit for their predecessor’s economy and people shit all over Democrats.

This pattern has been happening for as long as I can remember (I’m 35); it baffles me that no one else sees it.

[–] ZK686@lemmy.world -4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I remember my girlfriend, just staring at the TV when that female rapper was literally twerking at one of Kamala's democrat conventions.... and was like "what the fuck is this?" I mean, I get it that celebrities can and do help candidates, but the messages being sent by the Democrats were just crazy... like, it's all a party and not that serious. And for the record, my lady is Mexican and very liberal...

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That has to be a joke. How can I find it? Sounds very unreal

[–] ZK686@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

Holy shit, no wonder she lost. My sincerest condolences my dude

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