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I can usually only sleep for about 5 hours a night and have a very brief window of opportunity to get to bed, usually between 10-12. If I miss it, I’m up all night, tossing & turning. If I go to bed earlier than that somehow, I wake up at 2 in the morning and can’t get back to bed. We value sleep alot, but I wonder how it is in the animal kingdom, do they really get alot of sleep, or are they on edge all the time?
Just looked it up, other primates are listed as getting 9–15 hours of sleep a day, we are so fucked up.
Prior to electricity and the industrial revolution, most people in Western cultures slept in two 3-4 hour shifts, separated by about an hour of being awake, every night. They would go to bed at 8 or 9, wake up at midnight for an hour or so, then go back to bed for another few hours.
With the invention of electricity and lighting, people pushed back the time that they would go to bed, and when the industrial revolution happened, there was an emphasis on productivity and not spending much time in bed.
Also, they have done studies on the sleeping habits of modern indigenous tribes that live without electricity. The studies found that these people sleep an average of around 6 hours a night, and don't have problems with sleep disorders like the modern western world does. So it seems like electricity and screen time definitely play a role in sleep quality.
I have similar sleeping habits to you, and went down the rabbit hole of looking into our ancestors sleeping habits. Let's bring second bedtime back.
I was about 45 when I found this:
Sleep with Me Podcast
Bedtime stories that bore you to sleep. It doesn't work for everyone, but it changed my life.
With all due respect, maybe chill a little bit on plugging the same podcast 5 different times in the same thread. I thought you were a bot until I double checked your account.
Sorry. I spent 45 years of my life with ever increasing insomnia. During the worst year, I never slept more than four hours a night and would have several nights per week when I didn't sleep at all. I tried all the suggestions, even talking to a doctor and getting a prescription for sleeping pills, which didn't work.
Since finding the podcast, I've had maybe five nights in eight years where I didn't fall asleep within 15 minutes of playing it.
When I first started using it, I would play one episode when I was ready to go to sleep, but then I'd wake up when it ended. So, I started loading a playlist with all the episodes and playing non-stop, but then my alarm wouldn't wake me up in the morning (it would go off, then I'd hit snooze and the podcast would knock me out again). Finally I set on a routine in which I set it to play all night with a sleep timer to stop it a few minutes before my alarm.
Perhaps I come on too strong, but I was reaching the end of my rope when I found this. Like I said, it doesn't work for everyone, but on the off chance there's someone else like me who could be helped by this ridiculous thing, I can't help pushing it ever chance I get.
Edit: Also, I don't get anything out of the podcast except sleep. In fact, I pay to support it via patreon. It's completely free for anyone who wants to try it. I just want to make sure the people who need it can find it.