this post was submitted on 09 Nov 2024
136 points (94.2% liked)

politics

19120 readers
3209 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yep. Democrats need to get the fuck out of the way.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Democratic National Committee needs to get the fuck out of the way. Democratic leadership needs to get the fuck out of the way. The Democratic electorate needs to throw them the fuck out, and start making a shopping list.

  • Universal Health Care. True universal healthcare; none of this ACA bullshit.

  • Securities tax. Own more than $10 million in stocks and bonds, we're taking 1% of those shares every year, and slowly liquidating them at auction. Auctioned shares will comprise no more than 1% of total traded volume. You don't get to just sit on those assets any more. You have to put them to work, where they will generate taxable income, or they will be taken from you.

If any member of the second estate has a problem with universal healthcare or a wealth tax, 18th century France came up with the solution.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If they're holding us back, why do we need them. How are they in our way? Why don't we just take the party from them or make our own with blackjack, hookers, and abortion if it's so easy to win?

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

First off, Some mod is reading "Guillotine Party" and thinking I'm advocating violence. I'm not. I'm advocating a French Revolution, where the third estate takes their nation back from the oligarchs of the second estate.

Just as the modern Tea Party adopted historical symbolism to identify and rally people to their cause of action, we should use the most visible symbol of the French Revolution to focus our own efforts against wealth disparity: the guillotine.

Why don't we just take the party from them or make our own with blackjack, hookers, and abortion

That is exactly what the Tea Party did to the GOP, and that is exactly what we need to be doing to the Democratic Party. We need to destroy billionaires, not by removing their heads, but by removing their billions. Every cent they aren't spending is a loss of income to a worker, and a loss of income tax to the government. We are all paying a higher portion of our earnings to give them the privilege of extracting wealth from the economy.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

First off, Some mod is reading "Guillotine Party" and thinking I'm advocating violence. I'm not. I'm advocating a French Revolution, where the third estate takes their nation back from the oligarchs of the second estate.

1000001887

Is, is this satire? I can't even tell anymore.

Now, not that I disagree with what I think you're saying over all. But..... How did the French do that, and maybe that association could give someone reasonable suspicion.

We need to rebuild the solidarity of labor. As well as educating many that they are also part of labor. Talk about taxing the 1%, some Brain Trust somewhere will think your targeting him. Hell they'll do that even if you talk about taxing the 0.1%. IT workers are some of the worst. It's like brother they won't let you do the same job from home. They're demanding that you be there so they can stand and look over your shoulder and justify office space. On call 24/7 with no dedicated off time. Have to keep limping along with completely inadequate resources. While CEOs and other c-suite officers take home pay raises. F****** unionize Brothers.

But yeah the French Revolution was very violent. And the guillotine is a singular symbol of that violence.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

The French had no other means of achieving their objectives in 1789. They didn't have a democracy. They didn't have the ability to eliminate their "billionaires" by taking their billions. They could only get rid of their "billionaires" by taking their heads.

Unlike the French Revolutionaries, we have the framework of a functioning democracy already established. It's currently broken and non-functional, but it exists.

We don't need the guillotine, but we do need the mindset, the attitude, the commitment that the revolutionaries had when they decided to use the only tool they had available to them.