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Summary

Many Democrats, especially women, expressed disillusionment and frustration online, viewing the result as a reflection of deep-seated misogyny in the U.S.

Harris supporters highlighted anger that a “felony convicted, twice-impeached” Trump prevailed over a female candidate.

Comparisons to Hillary Clinton’s 2016 loss resurfaced, with many attributing Trump’s win to targeted appeals to young men, including appearances with influencers like Joe Rogan.

The election outcome has intensified concerns over growing right-wing radicalization among young men.

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

no, he won because 20 million Americans played chicken in Americas only car and we fucking lost.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I kinda think the 73 million who voted R might be the bigger problem here.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

they are a problem, but terrible people will be terrible and nothing will change that.

20 million voters figuratively said, "no, fuck you we want nothing to do with this system." even though they are literally a part of the system.

it's like negotiating with a toddler. ˢᵐᵃˡˡ world view with BIG ambitions.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Half of the reason government exists is to stop terrible people from being terrible. Religion is supposed to reign in the terrible people too, American Evangelicalism just creates terrible people.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

yeah.... Government exists to control the society. They say the government is the will of the people, but that's been a lie historically for many, many, many years.

Religion is the antithesis of government. Religion is meant to control the will of the people. to direct it and hone it to a fine point.

Historically, if you look at the impact that religion had on systems of government, you can see that there's definitely a negative impact where one becomes weaker.

The point being, both systems of government and religion are tools in which to control the fate of man. The reason why American Evangelicalism creates terrible people is because there are terrible people leading American Evangelicals.

And the reason why the American system of government supports terrible people is because it was modified to support terrible people. The same terrible people leading American evangelicals.

If we had any hope in making impactful change, it would have started with education.

Now, my fear is it's too late for education. And what comes next will be horrific.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I think we definitely are in agreement here. My one quibble is I don't know that religion is the antithesis of government so much as a more primitive form of government. The earliest religions were a form of law enforcement in world without police or judicial systems.

If it's just you and someone else alone in the wilderness, why shouldn't you just kill them and take their stuff? There are no consequences. Religion adds the consequences. "God will punish you. You'll burn in Hell/Hades/Tartarus." Why shouldn't I steal? "It's a sin." Why shouldn't I sleep with my neighbors wife? "It's bad karma." It's all just laws enforced by a mythological father figure instead of a real guy with a gun.