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“It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them,” Sanders said.

“First, it was the white working class, and now it is Latino and Black workers as well. While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change. And they’re right.”

“Will the big money interests and well-paid consultants who control the Democratic Party learn any real lessons from this disastrous campaign?” Sanders asked.

“Will they understand the pain and political alienation that tens of millions of Americans are experiencing? Do they have any ideas as to how we can take on the increasingly powerful Oligarchy which has so much economic and political power? Probably not.”

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[–] Timmy_Jizz_Tits@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

At this point I'd be in favor of him just starting a podcast and enjoying retirement. The left has to go around the DNC to effectively deliver their message, it's foolish to think otherwise.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The dnc should all fall on their sword politically and admit that it would been better today had they given being their blessing and support when it would have mattered.

Then give Bernie power in the dnc to craft the future of the party. Find a new direction while there's still time

[–] Timmy_Jizz_Tits@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

He's 83. It's best for him to leverage his celebrity than to really hunker down with an administrative role. If Trump can find true believers best believe the good guys can.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's cute to read all of these comments attempting to strategize without realizing that it's all moot in a P2025 world.

We are fucked. It's too late to discuss realigning for "the next election," because there will never be a (fair) one ever again.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You are demoralized, i get it

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah. I am. What is your point?

If you or anyone else thinks what I'm saying is hyperbolic, then I want you to remember this exchange in 6 to 12 months.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If germany is an ally today the US then its never too late to keep fighting.

But you are absolutely entitled to feel like its pointless. Its not true, one might even say there has never been a fair election since the creation of the electoral college.

To say there will never be another fair election is hyperbolic.

I've probably got another 35 years, 67 more if im really lucky, you will have to give me more than 6 to 12 months.

I genuinely hope this doesnt cause a new civil war or worldwar. But im not willing to bet it isnt a precipice that has just been driven past, im waiting for a fall

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’ve probably got another 35 years, 67 more if im really lucky

That seems like a really big spread. I've probably got another 30, but nowhere near 60 even if I"m really lucky, unless I'm like "statistical outlier" lucky.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

At least a few people have lived over 120. Its the spread that exists as far as we know, but also folks like david sinclair are researching longevity seriously. Crispr and stem cells. New categoriesn of vaccines. If the world doesnt burn out here, and we dont all kill each other its technically possible i could see the year 2100. Ill get to be one of the very few people who can say they remember 3 different centuries.

Not bad end... If im really lucky?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You do know what had to happen to Germany for it to become what it is after WW2, right?

It was basically destroyed, and the allies rebuilt it. That shit ain't happening again.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Crazier things have happened my dude civil war could happen again, it might even have happened if kamala had won. We wont know the crazy shit orange turd burger is gonna do

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

They've told us what they are going to do. We should listen.