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Yeah, that's why Obama should have packed SCOTUS, fuck the optics and just do what's right. We saw this coming and still Democrats assumed terrible people won't be terrible given the chance
I hate Obama but nobody not even my cynical self saw things going this blatantly corrupt.
If he packed the court back then it could of sparked a civil war.
Agreed, but because he didn't, now we have this outcome. It would have been worth risking a civil war to ensure America stays a democracy. The military was always on the left side, anyway
Not to mention: I will not be shocked if open civil war occurs at some point in the next few years. Trump’s bound to try to do something beyond the pale to a blue state at some point (CA, MA, NY, etc) - something that is flagrantly illegal, and basically an authoritarian power grab. The governor in question would then mobilize their state guard. Then you have civil war.
I’m a former NYer from LI and I moved to vermont nearly a decade ago. I was recently back home for a couple months to help my mother out with a health issue. It was divided and scary when I left in 2015…. It’s even worse now.
I’m a visibly queer woman who is often confused for a man (short hair, masc style, but face and body are still femme) and I was bullied my entire life for being queer in supposedly ‘liberal’ NY, to the point that in 2013 during the trans bathroom bill madness in I think NC I and another friend (also a masc queer woman) were assaulted in the woman’s bathroom at a restaurant on LI for being perceived as trans. We both own vaginas and were minding our business using the bathroom like any other woman…
I think somewhere like LI NY is ripe for a troubles-style civil war. You have very boisterous angry people, extremely insane cost of living, absolute utter hatred of minorities while living right along side them. FYI if you didn’t know yaphank NY was the headquarters of the kkk and the American Nazi party in the 30s.
And when inevitably the other side wins an election, what are they going to do but continue to pack the court? It’s not a good strategy.
True. But if Obama picked people, at least we would have had enough to offset the loons Trump put on
And then we end up with 100 Supreme Court justices. It’s a childish solution.
I'm saying if we had a majority before Trump installed his, then we wouldn't be where we are. Woe wouldn't have been overturned either. At least it would have been a big enough stopgap to ensure the 14th amendment would have been correctly followed
Plus, even if we had 100 justices, then so be it, we have 100 but at least we'd have the majority. It's worth having a "childish" number of justices to prevent Trump