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The democrats haven’t held a legitimate primary since 2008!

In 2008 it was a genuine competition between Obama, Hillary, and a handful of other lesser known politicians. Obama won the general in a landslide.

In 2012 Obama ran unopposed. Obama won the general.

In 2016 the democrats rigged the primary against sanders for Hillary, and to absolutely no one’s surprise who was paying attention, Hillary lost the general. Why? she didn’t genuinely win the primary. Shocking!

In 2020, refusing to learn mistakes from 2016, the democrats once again screwed over bernie and didn’t run a legitimate primary - rigged it so that all the candidates except no-path-to-win Warren exited the race to split the progressive vote away from bernie. Joe biden won by the skin of his teeth, and he would of lost if it weren’t for the country reacting to trumps handling of covid.

In 2024, once again refusing to learn the democrats didn’t even bother with a primary, ran an old demented geezer as a presidential candidate, realized that wasn’t going to work, and then anointed unelected Kamala Harris who didn’t even need to compete in a primary.

And they’re shocked they lost?! These people make way too much money to be this stupid.

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[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't know if sentiment swung or if Dems just didn't show up.

Biden had over 80 million votes in '20. Trump had like 74. Trump got less total votes this year than in '20. Only problem was like 15 million Dems didn't show up.

If there is one thing you can count on from a Democrat "voter", it's for them to not actually vote.

[–] inv3r510n@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That’s bullshit. Obama won in 2008 with record turnout. Take the loss and learn from it instead of blaming voters for refusing to vote for a candidate who didn’t earn it.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not saying that she desereved the votes.

The comment I was responding to said the electorate swung right. I'm saying that's not what the numbers say.

The numbers say that the Dems didn't show up to the polls. It's absolutely the fault of the democratic party leadership: if you can't convince people to show up, your offering is insufficient.

So, I actually agree with you, and the point I was making was at a seperate point somebody else made.

I know you're hurting today but get ahold of yourself. Read and think before you rage at strangers on the internet.

[–] inv3r510n@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

BuT tHe PoLlS sAy OtHeRwIsE

If there hasn’t been a worldwide turn to fascism then where the fuck is everyone? This isn’t just an American phenomenon.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you have an concrete alternative interpretation I'm all ears. Are numerically fewer votes for Trump in 2024 an indication of growing support, and if so, how do you figure that?

Again, we're aligned, but you're lashing out at me out of frustration and anger and I expect you to be better.

If you want to engage in an adult discussion we can do that. I'm empathetic to your pain right now, but take a deep breath before you respond consider carefully if you're in a place to do so as your best self. Doesn't have to be today if you're not. Hit me up in a week. A month. A year. I'm here whenever you want a sober sounding board.

[–] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Tone policing a genocide and the anger in the democrats once again selling us out to fascism rather than embrace anything remotely progressive. So liberal.

The coin toss during the caucus for starters. I’m home now, I’ll edit my comment in a bit. I worked for his campaign. It was beyond obvious that they were heavily weighing the scale against him.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I am on your side, and you are being vicious.

Asking you to treat me with respect isn't tone policing, it's basic human decency, and I believe you understand that.