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[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Yeah, France is the exception, but only because they're narcissistic pricks with nothing to be narcissistic about, particularly their pricks.

I speak French and was an outcast, though it wasn't nearly as bad outside of Paris, other cities just ignore you mostly.

[–] Dremor@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Note: I was an exchange student in the US, and hosted some US student in return, back in France. So I was able to live the culture shock first hand. 😆

It is true that there is a sharp contrast between the French way of life and other, more easy going countries, like the US.

Politeness is key, especially between strangers. But without knowing any of the rules, a foreigner has a good chance of being rude without even realizing it.

But once you got past that hard outer shell, we can be quite friendly. Of course, there are exceptions, and I personally experienced some pretty rude waiter in Paris... once.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

It's not that.

Sweden is probably more polite, and it's fine. The rest of France is also lovely.

Paris just seems to breed assholes somehow.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe it's you, not the french?

I live here, as a foreigner, and sure the bureaucracy is wild as is the language but I haven't felt what you're conveying, especially in Paris where no one gives a damn if you speak english or anything, you could dress up in toilet paper and people wouldn't care.

Gotta go look at some impressionist paintings and then go to the movies, after eating some good stuff, all on my modern bicycle.

On the countryside people are more like the common clay, but they are like that for everyone.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Again, every other country, every other city in France were lovely.

The louvre was gorgeous.

As I said, Paris would be great if it wasn't for all the fucking people.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ok, yes that's known, in paris people are stressed and rudish, but they are that to everyone without discrimination.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It didn't seem like stress, it seemed like they genuinely enjoyed being superior entitled assholes.

And as an American, I thought I had a high threshold for that.

The rest of Europe was incredible, the Nordic countries are my vision of heaven on earth. Mostly moved to Sweden, yesterday basically cut my last ties.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's also cultural, when you go to a café or a shop or a restaurant in Paris, you go to someone elses place (theory is that as it's so small in overcrowded Paris, it was actually someones home too and history made the rest), you are not some golden client and instead you are on their turf, so they can ask you to move, not serve you etc.

Maybe that's why some people think the french are rude.