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[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Have they tried letting Chinese citizens be free from totalitarianism the first time in their entire history?

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Best I can do is more restrictions on travel.

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I completely seriously, put forth that it's the soul-crushing, rampant late-stage capitalism, with poor worker protections, much more than the lack of political freedom, is what is driving the low birth rates. (Now, obviously different story during one child policy).

I just think people are way to quick to overlook the economics, which is currently happening almost everywhere (the stupid house prices, real wages not keeping up with price inflation, the wealth gap between the richest and poorest of a nation getting larger, etc)

If China became a mutli-party representative democracy overnight, you can bet your ass no one is going to be having any more children than they are right now.

If you were to ask the average Chinese person if they support their government, the answer would be yes, despite what some people outside China would like to believe. (On average, of course there are still a notable number who aren't happy at all with the government).

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Exactly. No one wants to have kids living in a totalitarianistic shit hole

[–] filister@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Actually it is quite the opposite. But just look where the birth rate is growing. Usually it is poor, underdeveloped countries.

The more developed the nation, the more expensive the life is. Like in Munich, good luck having kids, where a 3-room apartment costs almost like the average salary. Then think for a second or third kid. No way.

Plus, we now have entertainment in our hands, 24/7, called mobile phones, be it Instagram, TikTok, Reddit, Facebook. Who wants a sloppy sex, when you can spend the time binge watching the latest TV series or having dopamine kicks from your favourite social media.