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[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Soooo wtf are these Cubans thinking? These embargoes hurt the people in Cuba. So Cubans in Florida are basically Republican women? As in, they'd gladly hurt those like them as long as they can feel superior?

[–] Thunderbird4@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Absolutely. See also: increasingly conservative Mexicans in US border states who support building a wall.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Its the "pull up the ladder" phenomenon. You even see it in places you wouldn't expect, like US workers opposing student loan forgiveness proposals because they had to pay, and want to make damn sure everyone else has to go through the pain that they did.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yet I'm called childish when I say the student loan forgiveness shit was just a cheap grab of public support. It is not actually doing anything to prevent further accumulation of more debt for future students.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yeah, Canadian universities and colleges are subsidized and collectively bargain for having Canadian students

Unfortunately provinces refused to raise the amount given with inflation so the schools turned to international students and imported a lot of people

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 7 points 3 weeks ago

I watched an immigrant buy the house across the street and turn it into a compound, build a business with undocumented folk he kept in campers outside his house, and now that its established he ditched the campers, flys Trump flags, and advocates for mass deportation.

The "I got mine" mentality is strong.

The ones that made it to Florida were the former ownership class that had the choice of staying to face trial for their crimes against the Cuban people, or get on the boat. Occasionally a "politically persecuted" person or group would "escape" in later years. Usually these people either helped the CIA with their destabilization attempts or were just ordinary criminals that fled prosecution like many Americans go to Russia to do. The US was more than happy to accept both groups without any vetting as that helped their narrative that Castro was a tyrant making up charges.

Floridian Cubans, Gusanos, hate communism for the same reason anyone in the parasite class hates communism; they're mad the playing field was leveled and they had to answer for their crimes against humanity.

[–] anachronist@midwest.social 6 points 3 weeks ago

The Cuban refugees were mostly supporters of the Batista regime, owners of sugar plantations, etc.