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“If it involves money. It’ll be on our platform. Money or securities or whatever. So, it’s not just like send $20 to my friend. I’m talking about, like, you won’t need a bank account.”

Well that sounds terrifying!

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[–] Chozo@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because the things he says and does affect real people, and it's important that this behavior is known so that he doesn't get away with his shitty misdeeds in secrecy.

[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah. You guys just love to bond over the mutual hatred of Elon. There's a ton of more influencial people than him of who hardly nobody is talking about here. Elon is like Trump. They get loads of free attention and media cover largely because the haters can't stop talking about them. Before I came to lemmy hardly remembered Elon exists.

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Elon is like Trump.

In that, they're both assholes who have influence over people's lives? Yeah, exactly. Literally my point.

We shouldn't let them operate in the shadows. They need to be exposed. Every single time.

[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well there's still the slight difference that Trump was the president of the most powerful nation in the world and Elon is a random tech bro. If you don't drive Tesla nor use Twitter or Star Link then what ever Elon does has virtually zero effect on you life. You'd be surprised of how insignificant person he is outside this bubble. Most normal people pay no attention to him as they shouldn't.

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tell that to the Ukranian soldiers who had their Starlink access cut off during a critical moment in the war with Russia or to the people injured/killed by Tesla's half-baked autopilot that Elon refuses to admit is not safe for public use, both of which are decisions spearheaded by Elon, directly.

[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was not cut off. Starlink was not enabled on the coast of Crimea in the first place. They asked Elon to enable it to which he said no.

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They had previously had access, and then were denied further access by geofencing critical regions. That's effectively the same as having services cut off.

[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Starlink was never enabled in Crimea because that would be against the sanctions placed by the US. You're spreading misinformation.

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://www.politico.eu/article/elon-musk-ukraine-starlink-russia-crimea-war-drone-submarine-attack-sabotage/

Isaacson writes that Musk reportedly panicked when he heard about the planned Ukrainian attack, which was using Starlink satellites to guide six drones packed with explosives towards the Crimea coast.

After speaking to the Russian ambassador to the United States — who reportedly told him an attack on Crimea would trigger a nuclear response — Musk took matters into his own hands and ordered his engineers to turn off Starlink coverage “within 100 kilometers of the Crimean coast.”

This caused the drones to lose connectivity and wash “ashore harmlessly,” effectively sabotaging the offensive mission.

Ukraine’s reaction was immediate: Officials frantically called Musk and asked him to turn the service back on, telling him that the “drone subs were crucial to their fight for freedom.”

They had access. Musk revoked it from the Crimea region after the fact.

[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

No they didn't

Isaacson, the biographer, issued his own clarification on Sept. 8, acknowledging that Starlink was not enabled in Crimea in the first place:

To clarify on the Starlink issue: the Ukrainians THOUGHT coverage was enabled all the way to Crimea, but it was not. They asked Musk to enable it for their drone sub attack on the Russian fleet. Musk did not enable it, because he thought, probably correctly, that would cause a major war.

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