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U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres arrived at the BRICS summit in the Russian city of Kazan on Oct. 22, despite criticism from Ukraine, Voice of America reported.

The BRICS group, a bloc of countries that includes Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, Iran, Egypt, Ethiopia, and the United Arab Emirates, is convening in Kazan for a three-day summit from Oct. 22-24. According to Moscow, 36 world leaders are participating in the conference.

Guterres is expected to meet Russian President Vladimir Putin on the sidelines of the event on Oct. 24, according to Russian presidential aide Yuri Ushakov.

Ukraine's Foreign Ministry criticized the U.N. secretary general's visit.

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[–] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Let’s not forget the current war in Israel started when Hamas terrorists (and Gazan civilians) actually murdered 1200 Israeli civilians. In the most barbaric way possible. And then took 250 more people hostage. Last time I checked, Ukrainian terrorists did not invade Russia and butcher civilians and take more prisoner. Israel and Russia are not analogous in the slightest.

The attack that Hamas did is horrifying and should not have happened. Indeed. However, it did NOT start on 7th of October. The entire situation was already incredibly horrifying, bad and seriously unhealthy for Palestinians within Israel and in Gaza.

In the most barbaric way possible

Was it barbaric? Yes, certainly. But most barbaric, no. Considering what Israeli government has done to Palestinians from 1948 to 2024 (ongoing).

Here are some articles;

  1. The Israeli army’s use of Palestinian civilians as human shields has been documented on a large scale
  2. Israel’s human shields: Its own people
  3. This is how Israel uses its own people as human shields
  4. Israeli troops killed hostages, mistaking their cries for help as ambush -military
  5. 3 hostages killed by Israeli soldier in Gaza were waving a white flag, Israel says
  6. How an Israeli raid freed 4 hostages and killed at least 274 Palestinians in Gaza
  7. Strapped down, blindfolded, held in diapers: Israeli whistleblowers detail abuse of Palestinians in shadowy detention center.
  8. Israeli forces’ systemic denial of fair trial rights to Palestinian child prisoners amounts to arbitrary detention
  9. Israel's PM Netanyahu 'proud' of preventing establishment of a Palestinian state
  10. Far-right minister says nuking Gaza an option, PM suspends him from cabinet meetings
  11. Israel Defense Minister Calls Palestinians ‘Human Animals’ Amid Israeli Aggression
  12. Israeli politician: Palestinian prisoners should be allowed to be raped
  13. Born Without Civil Rights; Israel’s Use of Draconian Military Orders to Repress Palestinians in the West Bank
  14. Video appears to show IDF soldiers sexually abusing Palestinian detainee

And two images of massacres Israel has done. Because you see, Israel has done so many horrifying and bad things, I'm unable to post it all here;

part 1

part 2

Israel and Russia are not analogous in the slightest.

My whole point is; both are bad and shit. Both should be held accountable. Yet Zelensky praising Israel for so called ''defending themselves'' while, Israel is basically doing the same thing as Russia. Stealing land. He finds it entirely okay for Israel to murder thousands of Palestinian people but when it happens to his country, that's not good all of a sudden.

EDIT 1:

Let’s not forget the current war in Israel started when Hamas terrorists (and Gazan civilians) actually murdered 1200 Israeli civilians.

Do you have an trustable source (EVIDENCE) that Gaza civillians were doing that? Because that's a immensely high accusation to make without any evidence. Spreading that without evidence is dangerous and makes me wonder whether you have malicious intent or not.

EDIT 2: Checking your profile, you seem to be a Israel-supporter. The craziest comment I found was this one; you claiming Israel is not purposefully targetting civillians. This proves your bias. All evidence speaks against you.

[–] DarthJon@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

LOL, wow. I don't even know where to begin with this crap.

Yes, I am an Israel supporter. That makes me biased towards Israel. Just like your hatred for Israel makes you biased against Israel. See how that works?

And you're right, it didn't start on Oct 7, 2023. It didn't even start in 1948. It started decades before that, when Arabs began violently resisting Jewish immigration spurred on by the violently antisemitic and Nazi-sympathizer Amin Al-Husseini. But I suspect that you actually know every little about the history, like most Israel haters.

What did you do to generate that ridiculous list of links, Google "Bad things Israel has done"?

I like your list of "massacres" too. Notice how the vast majority of them occurred in 1947 and 1948, during war started by the Arabs. Most of them are just battles in which civilians died, but the Palestinian propaganda machine attaches the word "massacre" to every single one for dramatic effect. I can play that game with actual massacres, going back centuries before your list.

[–] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

Since you cannot stay polite, didn’t give the particular source about your claim of Gaza Civilians and do not give sources about your new claims. Our debate ends here. You can keep commenting but I refuse to after this one.