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Smart T.V. Privacy Overview? (feddit.nl)

submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by czim@feddit.nl to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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I'm considering buying a new TV. There's plenty of posts about trying to find dumb TVs, comments like 'just don't connect it to the internet/network'.

What surprises me is that there isn't a good overview of (popular) TVs or brands with basic information, answering for each TV:

Can you use it as a basic TV by choosing not to enable smart features during setup?
Can you opt out by just not accepting a bunch of agreements?
Does it have a camera and/or microphone? Where in the device are these? Is there a physical disable switch for microphone?
Does it nag when not connected to any network?
Does it have higher than normal power usage when not able to phone home?
Has it been discovered to connect to public WiFi networks? Does it have the (theoretical) ability to connect to 5G mobile networks?

And similar.

There are extensive lists with a lot of detail about VPN services but nothing like that for TVs. Am I ignorant of a good source, or does this just not exist (yet)?

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[–] drwho@beehaw.org 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

From trying to get people to do that (with no success), it's because it seems too much like work. Folks want something they can plug in and go... but plugging in one extra thing is just a bridge too far these days. It's frustrating as shit.

[–] czim@feddit.nl 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I hear you, but I'm not an example of this. I have a Pi-hole set up, firewalled my phone, happily use LibreWolf, etc.

Besides that, I also want to do the research on what screen to get. If a worse screen (small one, monitor or digital signage) is the only acceptable solution, then that's what I'll pick -- but having some idea of what it would mean to pick a typical smart TV and try to limit the consequences is also something I want to consider. The only frustrating thing to me is that it's hard to find out details about this (and that includes details about digital signage screen quality, for instance, since businesses don't seem to care all that much).

[–] drwho@beehaw.org 1 points 2 months ago

That's great, I didn't say you were. I was speaking specifically about people who, on the one hand lamented the risks of smart TVs, but on the other hand didn't realize that they would just be plugging their existing digital cable STB's HDMI cable into what amounts to a very large flat panel display.

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Can't relate. Privacy is not a plug and play thing nowadays.

[–] drwho@beehaw.org 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You missed the point.

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

My point was that having unrealistic hopes is solely the users' problem. They should lower them a bit. If they care about privacy, they should be able to do it. But yea many haven't grown to that point yet.