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[–] Gointhefridge@lemm.ee 130 points 3 days ago (6 children)

We can't even figure out how to not have half our society be rasict, how the hell are we gonna save a whole planet from our fuckery?

[–] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 124 points 3 days ago (2 children)

We're not gonna be able to combat climate change under capitalism anyway. The number one thing we need to do is to produce less but that goes directly against what capitalism needs to function. Not to mention that governments are bribed by companies to make laws in their favour.

But hey, what's the point of saving our planet anyway if we can't maximize profits anymore?

[–] Frittiert@feddit.org 40 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yep. And if you mention this, you're a commie and capitalism is the greatest thing ever and under socialism we will all starve and have nothing and it never worked look at Cuba.

Like capitalism works, and there are no imaginable alternatives.

Just don't use resources to produce that much useless crap to just dump it in a landfill or burn it? Is it so hard to understand?

[–] Crankenstein@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Damn right I'm a commie.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago

It’s working great in cuba. Best health care in the world too.

The problems in Cuba are all tied directly to us sanctioning them to try and destroy their economy

[–] mostdubious@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

a unified, coordinated population of citizens could make big change if we wanted to. there are certainly villains, but we're all somewhat to blame.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 4 points 2 days ago

We do what the British did with Australia, but with mars.

Send Elon and all the maga weirdos to the red place and we can begin following the plot of the expanse.

Like it should be.

[–] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

We cant even figure out how to make recycling work.

[–] Crankenstein@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Recycling was never supposed to work alone. It was literally the last ditch effort after Reduce and Reuse.

Also, we already figured out how to make it work, but it isn't profitable when it works, so obviously we have to use the less effective methods so that a small handful of big wigs can milk the process for personal gain.

[–] DrDickHandler@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

We could but it's not profitable enough for corporations.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Bold of you to assume that most people even want that. From what I can tell...

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 39 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There are a large number of people out there who seem to be deliberately making it worse - not even for profit, but just out of spite.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 9 points 3 days ago

Tbf, I think a certain minimum amount of intelligence is required to even qualify for that statement, which I suspect disqualifies most... but yeah, underneath that, there do seem to be a few, like Jeff Bezos.

Though Donald Trump himself I see more like a monkey doing its thing, as much a symptom as a feed-forward cause of his own. I ain't saying that he's not "evil" in his own way, just that he lacks sufficient character for his brand of it to have had any effect at all, if it weren't for the fact that the systems were so broken to begin with. Money (his father's in his case) corrupts.

[–] BrightCandle@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

We don't and we won't.

[–] mostdubious@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

good people have to do bad things to make way for the next generation of good people to do good things. no one has yet to convince me otherwise. we need a reset.