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Announcement by the creator: https://forum.syncthing.net/t/discontinuing-syncthing-android/23002

Unfortunately I don’t have good news on the state of the android app: I am retiring it. The last release on Github and F-Droid will happen with the December 2024 Syncthing version.

Reason is a combination of Google making Play publishing something between hard and impossible and no active maintenance. The app saw no significant development for a long time and without Play releases I do no longer see enough benefit and/or have enough motivation to keep up the ongoing maintenance an app requires even without doing much, if any, changes.

Thanks a lot to everyone who ever contributed to this app!

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[–] xodoh74984@lemmy.world 135 points 1 day ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (4 children)

This is sad. Google Play should never hold this much weight in the self hosted community. For Android users dedicated to open source software, F-Droid is the target.

I don't think SyncThing users would have much issue with the app disappearing from Google. Doing away with Google is the goal.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 4 points 18 hours ago

They're a cloud company, their mission statement is to eradicate us. It's like IT trying to stamp out shadow IT.

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 55 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The problem is not "Syncthing users" it is the others that we bring along with us.

I already have F-Droid on my phone, but the dozen others that I have promoted Syncthing to over the years do not. This is going to cause a bunch of problems.

This is much more important than what you portray here.

[–] t_378@lemmy.one 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The point you raise reminds me of when Signal dropped SMS support, after my efforts to convert all the non techie people in my life over to it. So sad when it happens...

[–] NostraDavid@programming.dev 3 points 12 hours ago

So sad when it happens…

I don't follow - do people still seriously use SMS? I for one try to use it as little as possible.

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 day ago

I was reminded of the same thing.

[–] tychosmoose@lemm.ee 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That and the shrinking ability to grant access to device storage. If that becomes an option only on rooted phones (which seems like the directly Google is heading) it will make the audience for such an app much smaller.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If google heads that way I'll head somewhere else.

[–] bilb@lem.monster 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

To apple? Linux phone experience is just trash.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

This is my currently dilemma.
Each year Android becomes more restrictive like iOS with none of the benefits, Rooting becomes harder as more apps tap into the Play Integrity API (and strong Integrity is on the way to kill most workarounds for it), iPhone got a little better but is still locked down as fuck, where the hell do I go to? 😒

[–] NostraDavid@programming.dev 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

LineageOS, maybe? Still Android, but (AFAIK) more open to change than standard Android.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 hours ago

I've been using custom ROMs for a while now, but the reality is that they can only do so much to stop Android's ever increasing restrictions.
And the aforementioned Integrity API also detects unlocked bootloaders, meaning this will gradually become more of a problem.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 16 hours ago

Realistically I have no where to go and that's the problem. iOS is even more locked down.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

And yet Resilio can access a lot more than ST, even without root.

They said somewhere that the play store thing is not the reason, it's just one of the more recent issues.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

As much as I want to use F-Droid, my work blocks all third party app stores so it's either have access to my work stuff on one phone (via profiles) or dual wield two phones.

I lack the patience to dual wield again. It's very annoying.

[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Is this your personal phone? If your work were to dictate what you are allowed to install on your personal phone, that'd be a serious overstepping of bounds.

Perhaps you can sneak in f-droid via adb install and give it app installation permissions via ADB though.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 22 hours ago

My primary phone belongs to my work. I get a stipend every two years that essentially allows me to buy any supported phone I want.

The conditions are that it's managed by them via MDM and all my work stuff is on the work profile side.

It is a choice I make since it allows me to not carry two phones. I did that for the first two years at my company and it was annoying.

[–] bilb@lem.monster 5 points 1 day ago

If "your" phone belongs to your employer that's the choice you made. It isn't yours.

[–] derin@lemmy.beru.co 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm annoyed to see you getting down voted - I had a similar issue years ago with my work MacBook (couldn't run a custom WM because any modification to the Finder was blocked without putting the machine into "unsafe" mode).

I love OSS, but without a verifiable way to distribute it large swaths of the workforce won't be able to use it.

F-Droid is great, but sadly it isn't enough.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was today years old when I learned that you can run a custom WM on a Mac.

That's like....the equivalent of a coca cola soda machine dispensing Pepsi.

And in terms of down votes, I don't really care too much. It evens out overtime.

[–] derin@lemmy.beru.co 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 20 hours ago

Thank you but I don't run a Mac. I used to back in the day. I just know how anal Apple is about people using their devices in any way that they don't specifically want you to.