this post was submitted on 18 Oct 2024
84 points (86.8% liked)

World News

39142 readers
2640 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Justify? Probably not. Explain? Most definitely. The state of Israel is the only thing that benefits from Hamas.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think there's more to it than Israel being oppresors. There's plenty of internal oppression like Islam being the most oppressive religion on the planet to start.

[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Here’s the thing: the Zionist movement (as opposed to Jews, generally) has the stated aim of “removing” the current population of Palestine and refilling it with people of a different ethnoculture. The only thing that all Palestinians can currently agree on is that the Zionist policy of Lebensraum (yeah - I said it) must be stopped. Some people only have the clothes on their back and the rubble under their feet. At that point you’ll join with anybody to remove the genocidal apartheid yoke of the oppressor. The inevitable infighting can wait until the external aggressor is defeated. A complete human tragedy for millions is the result. Both sets of lunatic religious extremists making misery for the people in the middle.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago

That's too simplistic of a take. Many Palestinians never even get a chance to be oppressed by Israel when their own rulers are doing plenty of oppression, murder, rape and torture of their own serfs.

What you're describing sounds whole lot like a fallacy if infinite regress as you can always go further and blame some higher tier of issues.