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Honda says making cheap electric vehicles is too hard, ends deal with GM::The platform was to use GM's Ultium batteries.

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[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Imho, the problem is that North American roads are not safe for small vehicles. If you're a suburbanite who spends an hour in your car every day on expressways full of trucks and SUVs, you don't generally want to be in a slow, tiny, short, vulnerable vehicle where you're beneath the consideration and sightline and possibly wheels of traffic.

[–] Halosheep@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Seriously, in Texas even a full size 4-door sedan feels small compared to all he lifted oversized pickups all over.

[–] ratman150@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

Am in Texas (Dallas area) I commute 33 miles each way in an electric Fiat 500. I actually do feel plenty safe (car is insanely stable but also far safer than my other commuter which is a klr650 motorcycle) but do have issues with road rage. I legitly don't care if someone hits me in this car as it wouldn't be the first time and I have full confidence I'll be safe.......on the other hand I don't appreciate how unsafe large vehicles tend to be nor how difficult they can make visibility.

I used to drive semi trucks for a living and I'd personally pick the Fiat over the Freightliner every time.

[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Right? And sane laws about safe vehicles that would clamp down on these land-tanks would never pass because muh freedoms.

If your vehicle represents a higher risk to other people around you, then there should be firmer laws about driving it safely. Give Miatas a higher speed limit, and F-350s firmer penalties for dangerous driving and speeding.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Ever seen a honey badger?

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's also the matter of snow in a large part of the country. Any car with less than 6" of ground clearance is going to get stuck all the time. AWD or 4wd saves a you a lot of grief too.

[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I drive a Prius and I live in Canada, a vehicle with like 3 mm of ground clearance. The trick is to live in a place with actual civilized government that plows and salts.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I live in Chicago. They are good at clearing the main streets, but they don't do the alleys. They also can't help burying cars parked on side streets. On top of that the wind causes huge drifts.

[–] marx2k@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wisconsin here. I drove a dodge shadow, a grand am and then a civic. Only the grand am sucked in snow and that was due to garbage tires.

Where is this winter hellscape you speak of

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Chicago. The wind off the lake blows huge snow drifts and the city doesn't have the manpower to clear the side streets or alleys. If you park off the alley, you will get stuck. If you park on the street, you will get buried by the snow plow and you will get stuck.