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[–] fukhueson@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm supposed to provide proof for my response to your claim, yet you aren't required to source your original claim of "Because they don’t want anyone to leave"? No no :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)

When two parties are in a discussion and one makes a claim that the other disputes, the one who makes the claim typically has a burden of proof to justify or substantiate that claim, especially when it challenges a perceived status quo.[1] This is also stated in Hitchens's razor, which declares that "what may be asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence." Carl Sagan proposed a related criterion – "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" – which is known as the Sagan standard.[2]

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One way in which one would attempt to shift the burden of proof is by committing a logical fallacy known as the argument from ignorance. It occurs when either a proposition is assumed to be true because it has not yet been proven false or a proposition is assumed to be false because it has not yet been proven true.[8][9]

I'm not going to be engaging with you now, or in the future. This is extraordinarily bad form, and a huge waste of time.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Dude, this is basic logic. One party controls the border, therefore that party is the one that has the power to let people in and out.

People aren't being let out.