Because you don't support the people, you support the bourgeois state and your position boils down to "I am willing to kill hundreds of thousands of people to protect it."

This is not socialist ideology. This is first and foremost nationalism, which variant of it I am as yet uncertain as you've said nothing about what your "socialism" entails. I am unable to assess whether you're a nazi or a plain old liberal that pretends to be a socialist by saying you like welfare while still completely and totally supporting capitalism and liberal institutional design to maintain the bourgeoisie as the ruling class. The german gothic aesthetic you choose for your username certainly doesn't help the suspicions I have over what you really are though, literally retvrn.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have never seen one of these alleged "socialists" engage on this point. I would really like to see their rationale, and it's really frustrating that none of them will respond.

They just dance around and repeat that they're a "socialist", but never point to a single socialist principle that informs their perspective

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They never engage with it because they know damn well that they have no excuse. Rather than engage in something that they are completely caught out on they resort to non-engagement.

Ironically this strategy of online rhetoric is literally in the handbook from the 77th brigade that was leaked, British military psyops. However I suspect these people just learned it naturally from many bad experiences with how that went for them. This picture from their webpage makes me laugh every time because it's literally fedposting :