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[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love mushrooms, and not once have I ever thought about trying to harm anyone during a trip, let alone commit mass murder.
Might as well chock this up to "Reefer Madness"

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah this is absolute bullshit.

Let's set aside, for a moment, that this dude took the shrooms something like 48 hours prior. 100% this guy was not under the influence of psilocybin while on that plane.

But all of that aside, this just isn't how shrooms work. I know it can affect people in different ways, but I've taken heroic shroom doses before. Never, at any point, are you unaware that you're tripping, or think you're "dreaming" like this guy claimed, unless you're literally experiencing ego death. In which case, you're not even making it off the floor of your living room, let alone onto an airplane (with the company you work for), and into a cockpit.

You're not going through security, getting on a flight, acting normal enough to get into the cockpit, and then being lucid enough to make a deliberate move like he did. You're not even going to be aware that you have a fucking body.

And if you're not tripping hard enough for that, then you're not tripping hard enough to earnestly believe you're dreaming. Because that's not how psychedelics work.

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I have seen a couple of people take doses of 5 or 6 grams, and they are completely in a trance for hours. Just stuck in one spot and dead to the outside world. Then about 6 or 8 hours later they are back to their normal self. So, yea something is off about this excuse.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Exactly. If you're taking that much, you're basically in another dimension while your husk of a body (that, by this point, you're completely unaware even exists) is essentially incapacitated for a few hours.

And if you don't take that much, you 100% know that you're tripping the entire time.

[–] piecat@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why can't it just be a rare side effect of psychedelics?

I had a friend who freaked out on acid. They found him naked in someone's yard. After trying to break shit at a friend's house, he freaked out and ran away.

Why can't it just be that 1/10k people lose it after psychedelics?

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because there was a multiple day gap between him taking them and him getting on this plane.

[–] piecat@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I've personally had depression and anxiety issues after tripping.

I believe that someone could have trouble telling between dream and reality. I've been close. Isn't fun.

Maybe it's mental illness.