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[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Doing nothing has gotten them killed, too. Look at the West Bank. Look at the March of Return. Doesn't Palestine have a right to defend themselves?

Also, there are tons of Palestinians refugees. 1.9 million have already been forced to flee their homes in this conflict, and there are 2.4-5.6 million from previous ones. They mostly go to Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and Egypt.

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My point about refugees is that Iran is taking literally 0 of them, despite being a major funding and arms source for Hamas and Hezbollah. I was pointing out that Iran doesn't give a shit about the Palestinian people, other than to use them as fodder to hurt Israel.

If two groups claim a territory at the same time, and both have lived there on and off for a few thousand years depending on the activity of dozens of wars. Who exactly has the right to it?

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Oh ya, for sure. I get that and not taking refugees isn't great and sucks. Still, they may be doing it for selfish reasons, but opposing the genocidal state of Israel materially is still better than arming them, like the US is doing, or doing nothing but stern words, like most of the rest of the world is doing.

If two groups claim a territory at the same time, and both have lived there on and off for a few thousand years depending on the activity of dozens of wars. Who exactly has the right to it?

That's why I support a one-state solution. They can coexist peacefully and have in the past before the more aggressive revisionist Zionist movement started popping up. Jewish people were better off in the Ottoman Empire than the rest of antisemitic Europe for large periods of time. Plus, they're doing fine in the US. That's proof enough that ethnostates aren't needed. It's just an excuse for Europe to not deal with their own antisemitism.