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[–] Lexam@lemmy.ca 192 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

That is an endorsement in of itself.

[–] dadGPT@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago (5 children)
[–] Pegajace@lemmy.world 78 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Not even. He officially left the Dems and registered as independent earlier this year.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I for one am very happy to rid the party of these scumbags: Manchin, Gabbard, Sinema.

[–] psvrh@lemmy.ca 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Depressingly, also Fetterman.

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fetterman is bad on Israel-Palestine but I thought he was otherwise ok re: democracy, women's rights, etc? Am I wrong? He's not my rep so I'm actually asking.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 4 points 2 months ago

He always struck me as a guy who is who he is. He would fail any ideology test because he goes by his gut rather than any ideological compass. I think he felt his supporters were being a bit mercurial for opposing him so vehemently on Israel. Not really an excuse, but I think he just lost his shit and lost his way. So probably a decent guy but he has to do a lot of work to repair that bridge and I have no idea if he's up to it.

But I could be wrong.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Gabbard and Sinema are people that can be replaced with other democrats, but let’s not fool ourselves into thinking a more progressive person would likely get elected for Manchin’s West Virginia seat.

Manchin may suck, but he caucuses with the dems and puts the dems 2 seats over the majority line. Which means his existence currently allows the Chuck Schumer to replace Mitch McConnell, which means the dems control what comes to the floor in the senate.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They just can't pass anything. But yeah, it is still better than what the other side would bring to the floor.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Don’t forget executive appointments. A GOP can block the appointment of normal judges and can fast track weirdos if someone like Trump is in office.

It’s more than passing laws.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

On the one hand, this matters because it allows the Senate to actually approve qualified judges to the federal bench, instead of the insane ideologues the GOP puts there.

On the other hand, all the federal judges in the world mean very little when SCOTUS is as thoroughly corrupt and extreme-right as it is, and has no issue overturning whatever cases they want to achieve the decision they've already arrived at.

On the other other hand, Manchin got to obstruct otherwise-popular legislation from either passing, or even being brought up for a vote merely by threatening to vote against it.

On the whole we're definitely better than we were before Biden took office, but I wouldn't put too much emphasis on Manchin. The successes of the Biden administration are despite Manchin, not because of him.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Then re-registered as a Dem when Biden was about to drop out. Then re-re-registered as an Indie when he realized he wasn't going to get handed to nomination over Harris.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 10 points 2 months ago

An independent now. Not even a DINO.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

More like a Dixiecrat. Old school southern Democrat.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Honestly, I’ll take it.

Dude could be a Home Depot Halloween skeleton for all I care. He caucuses with the Dems, which means that he helps push the Dems over 50% in the senate, which means the Dems control political appointments and what get brought to the floor.

I’ll take him over Mitch McConnell back in power.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Remember RINO was a term before the party switch. It was used for people deemed not progressive enough.