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[–] appel@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Whenever someone calls something "socialist", ask them to explain socialism to you and watch their argument fold like a wet blanket. They usually have no idea. In fact, many would love a healthy dose of Northern European socialism in their lives, as long as you call it "Owningthelibism" or something.

This is why we can't have nice things.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Capitalism with social programs is better than without, but that's not socialism. It's just not neoliberalism.

[–] Milk_SDF_Possum@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What makes countries where the State has high power fail then?

[–] masquenox@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Milk_SDF_Possum@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Concentration of power with those "social services", making people pay higher taxes many times for unfair reasons. Socialism has all the power on the State with no or little room for individuals themselves to make their businesses and companies, companies that'll thrive will be friends with the king and create a monopoly in that country. Putting everything in the hands of the State is a recipe of disaster.

[–] christiansocialist@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Socialism has all the power on the State with no or little room for individuals themselves to make their businesses and companies, companies that'll thrive will be friends with the king and create a monopoly in that country.

China has tons of small and big businesses and it's still socialist.

[–] Milk_SDF_Possum@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Chinese companies are basically extensions of the government.

[–] OutOfIdeas@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

Most corperations are, in any country.

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