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US intelligence report alleging Russia election interference shared with 100 countries
(www.reuters.com)
this post was submitted on 22 Oct 2023
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They spam this report like how they spam articles about it to pretend like what Russia is doing is any different from what the US does.
Remember when Russia invented election interference in 2016? Well the US was doing it before it was cool: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/nov/26/ukraine.usa
That is but one example of many dating back throughout the decades. In fact, Russia is the way it is in large part thanks to US interference. Make sure to scream "whataboutism" like a good little parrot and smash that downvote button to show how immune you are to propaganda.
Wrong, dezinformacija is an integral part of communism, Russia is using it since early ‘900. There are many interesting books about it
dEzInFoRmAcIjA You could've just written it as "disinformation" but I suppose writing it in a different language helps with the fearmongering for idiots. Take your cold war era bullshit and stuff it.
That is the original term you find in literature. Russian basically invented and made it into a system. Disinformation is a more recent term which is more connected to social networks and stuff, so not entirely correct to use.
Regardless of who supposedly invented lying, the US perfected it.
Heh, maybe, but I feel Russia is still king
All major powers are deep in this mire, African countries, Brazil in its previous election, China, N. Korea, Russia, Saudis, U.S. and others are in various stages of being under attack, by the others, as well as attacking others. This warfare has a low barrier of entry, is cheap, and when it works, works amazingly well.
The cluster f*** that the world is in, now, is the result.
Whaddaboutism is playing some pretend moral ground game where the imaginary points don't matter. If you are playing this game, you are missing what is actually happening.
Full disclosure, I am against fascism and oligarchies in all forms. They are all corrupt.
"Whataboutism" is supposed to be saying "what about [irrelevant thing]" not "what about [the exact same thing]". People who parrot the term don't even know how to use it correctly. They're using it to defend from any criticism against the US.
Criticizing the US doesn't mean I'm defending Russia.
Says the person falling completely for Russian propaganda.
Do you think propaganda is one sided? That only one viewpoint has a government backing it? It is not enough to recognize propaganda and then support the opposite. You have to critically evaluate what's going on.
With Ukraine, it's pretty fucking clear that Ukrainians wanted closer relations to the West, not to Russia. Was it a "color revolution" then, funded by the West to overthrow Russian order? Or was it an uprising of the people to take back their government and make it represent their wishes, and the US provided support to them? Was the Ukrainian president's sudden reversal on enacting a pro Western referendum after meeting with Putin a totally organic, sensible realization by him? Or, did Putin threaten him?
Given how the country has voted and responded to Putin's invasion, I'm inclined to think that reality is closer to an actual uprising of the people, versus a Western funded color revolution to put a Western friendly figure in power. I think the evidence strongly suggests this, in fact.
So have I fallen for Western propaganda in my analysis of Ukraine? Or have you fallen for Russian propaganda in your analysis? More importantly, if you do recognize that the reality of an "American coup to install a pro Western leader" doesn't match up at all with the war in Ukraine, will you admit that you have been duped?
If so, I genuinely applaud you. A wise person will freely admit they've been tricked and endeavor to not let that happen again.
No, I don't think propaganda is one sided, which is why I'm bringing up the US. Duh. Talking about "what the people want" is tricky because it can appear strongly one way or another depending on how it's portrayed. I'm sure quite a few thought that Jan 6th was "an uprising of the people" too. With enough media power, foreign countries could've been told a tale of the US government crushing "what the people want". In the link I posted, it shows an active effort by the US to fund and support groups pushing for policies that are favorable to the US and the west in general. Does this count as election interference or is it only election interference when Russia does it?
It's election interference either way. The question is how they're doing so.
Clearly a paragraph is too many words for you, which is why you're accusing me of supporting a "bloody thirsty tyrant" when I'm not. You should stay true to your username and lurk instead.