Yep. I find this "female clothes => they're trans" pretty questionable. Because… clothes have no gender. Men can wear dresses and heels as well.
And that goes for cis and trans men, I also know some trans guys that just like wearing a skirt.

[–] TheSlad@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I am 100% cis straight man; I have been dressed up in drag more than once in my life and even went out in public with it. Its fun! Getting to wear pretty and cute outfits and whatnot.10/10 would do again.

So I totally know where Bugs is coming from in this and it is NO indication of his self-identity.

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Was gonna say as a man that doesn't mind getting sissied for a kink scene, I'm 100% cis, and I agree with your assessment.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Agreed. Getting topped in a wig? Just some good straight fun right there

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 weeks ago

Ha! I didn't say anything about straight.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 month ago

I agree, but I think this usually comes from a place of Bugs Bunny being many trans women's first introduction to something outside the gender norm, and so they project that back onto the character.

That, or they're t4t and Bugs dressing up made them feel funny as kids in the same way that Robinhood from that one Disney movie did with furries.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

Remember when crossdressing existed?

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 6 points 4 weeks ago

To be fair, there's obviously something more than the clothes the changed here, it's how da wabbit wears them. Look at that profile:

[–] rbits@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

Agree. Bugs doesn't normally have boobs though. I feel like that's a bit different. Still doesn't have to mean someone's trans though.

[–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Is cis a spectrum? or is that one extreme end

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

It just means "not transgender."

Someone could be a crossdresser but still be cisgender.

[–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Is transgender a spectrum?

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Cis and trans are Latin prefixes and opposites of each other - cis basically translating out to "same" and trans being "different." To be cis means to be the same gender that the doctor assigned you when you were born, while trans people transition to a gender different from their assigned gender. So you can't be on a spectrum of more trans or less trans because you're transitioning to x, y, or z.

There are spectrums that people choose from, though, if you want to get into some of the finer details. Some people use the prefix demi, meaning "partially" (like in demigod), to signify a gender that they most closely relate to but don't feel properly identifies them. Like somebody who is a demigirl most closely relates to being a woman, but doesn't feel like womanhood fits them. This is why the umbrella term non-binary exists, for people who feel like they fall somewhere outside the traditional designated roles of "man" or "woman" and more closely relate to a secret, third thing.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

i think trans- denotes "change" or "movement", right? trans-isomers are usually rotated from their cis state, trans-portation moves things between areas, trans-lation changes the language of a text.

all to say, i think the change in and of itself is significant, and not everyone who's outside the "norm" feels a need to do it. there should probably be another term for that. too bad "heterogendered" conjures the imagery that it does.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 weeks ago

You're right, that's the more accurate definition. A state of change, moving from one state of being to a new one.

I think trans still works fine in this context because gender is a cultural label designated to you entirely based on what the doctor thought at the time of your birth and what society assumes from things like secondary sex characteristics and behavior, and the cis label was retroactively applied to describe "anybody who isn't trans" after the trans label had been in use for decades. So there's nothing really scientific behind the label beyond the concept of that state of change. Gender itself is a cultural concept instead of a state of being too (as well as a performance that we do every moment of our lives) and so falls more into an active event than a passive state.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I don't know if you could call it a spectrum, but there are certainly more types of transgender people than cisgender. MTF, FTM, gender fluid, non-binary, and maybe even more. I wouldn't say there are degrees of transgenderism, tho. You are or you aren't.

Sexuality, on the other hand, is definitely a spectrum.

[–] FMC8456@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago

It's definitely more complicated than cis or trans being a binary, I should know since I'm Isogender, neither cis nor trans. Not sure if gender modality is a spectrum though.

[–] will_steal_your_username@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 weeks ago

Gender is a spectrum, but trans just means not cis, with cis meaning identifying with your assigned at birth gender.

[–] FMC8456@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

Not exactly a spectrum but there are modalities in-between or that are neither cis or trans i.e. Isogender, what I am.