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[–] Sowhatever@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not in the EU for sure. American cars have always been "lots of horsepower and low-ish quality for a low price", and Tesla keeps the trend.

[–] greenmarty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I only know rich people who buy Tesla in EU. Rest of the people are driving half the price combustion engine cars.

[–] Sowhatever@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A Tesla is significantly cheaper than an equivalent combustion car.

Are you comparing a 5 seat 400HP tesla with a 4 seat 120HP Renault? Of course the 120HP Renault is cheaper.

Compare it to a 400HP BMW (or even a 200HP Renault).

EDIT: a Tesla Model 3 is 43.000€, a Renault Megane RS starts at 50.000€

[–] greenmarty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm comparing what avg people drive in vs Tesla across EU. It's symbol of having been able to afford expensive things.
BTW Cheapest tesla for 2023 where i curently reside costs 55k EUR.
There's no point buying not new one because battery might not be in the shape and costs fortune in comparison to combastion car usually maintanance.

Even full electric BMW x1 costs 15k EUR less.

Don't let me start about combustion Renault models which are not even selling due to their bad quality reputation.

[–] Sowhatever@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then the issue is not with Tesla, it's with high performance cars. You are comparing small commuter cars with high performance cars. Among which, Tesla is the cheapest.

I'd love to see where an iX1 is 40k, in Germany it starts at 48k... with less power, smaller battery and a whole lot of equipment missing. Want a glass roof? 1500€. Want a wireless charger? Then you need the premium package, 1750€. A big screen? 3200€, please! A nicely configured one comes to around 60k. An equivalen model y is 45k.

[–] greenmarty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't have issue with Tesla.
I say that it's status symbol across the EU as well in other parts of the world.
I've never mentioned other cars having better or worse features.
So again I’m comparing what avg people drive in vs Tesla across EU.
You are talking about what rich people buy if not Tesla.

[–] Sowhatever@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

If the status is "I can't afford a BMW" then yes, it's a status symbol.