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[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Thats a dark road to tread.

An example,

no alchol consumption is safe, so using your line of thinking you'd need to argue that anyone who partakes of alcohol at any anytime would fall under that line of thinking

https://www.who.int/europe/news/item/04-01-2023-no-level-of-alcohol-consumption-is-safe-for-our-health

Processed red meats simailary, especially those treated with nitrites, so those eating bacon, ham etc shouldn't be entitled to public heath care under your reasoning

https://www.cancercouncil.com.au/1in3cancers/lifestyle-choices-and-cancer/red-meat-processed-meat-and-cancer/

Or are those things ok becase you do them ?

On the upside, now you've excluded 95% of the population, public healthcare will be cheap :)

Contra to most peoples thinking, if you're concerned about public healthcare costs, you should "encourage" obesiety and smoking, they all die early, most health care coats are associated with healthy people in their old age. See here

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/05/health/05iht-obese.1.9748884.html

Adults are stupid and greedy, we all are.

[–] addictedtochaos@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

it does not cost the state A DIME, because it is insurance that covers healthcare, not taxes.

The loss is unrealized potential of those who are sick. so, that means the state invested like 150.000 bucks in one citizen, in hopes to get like one million bucks out of them

(not out of them specifically, but out of their labour; it is a chain, you see, and the labourer pays taxes, the factory pays taxes when selling the product, the consumer pays taxes when buying the product, and so on)

alcohol and obesity by diabetis harm EVERY cell in your body, period. thats hard biochemstry, facts, it is the truth.

red meat, on the other hand, is quite unclear.

the studies involving red meat are interesting;

people self report by remembering long periods of time, a salami pizza counts as red meat, as does a whole mc donalds burger with fries on the side.

as for nitrate, this gets complicating. you seem to be on the right path. nitrates are a new topic for me, i never before read up on them:

https://www.diagnosisdiet.com/assets/images/5/nitrate-content-45165560.png

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190311-what-are-nitrates-in-food-side-effects

https://livestock.extension.wisc.edu/articles/whats-the-deal-with-nitrates-and-nitrates-used-in-meat-products/

https://theconversation.com/why-nitrates-and-nitrites-in-processed-meats-are-harmful-but-those-in-vegetables-arent-170974

this is so tedious, no wonder everybody has a different oppinion