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[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 33 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Alright, the YAML spec is a dang mess, that I'll grant you, but it seems pretty easy for my human eyes to read and write. As for JSON -- seriously? That's probably the easiest to parse human-readable structured data format there is!

[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

it is anything but easy to read if your entire file does not fit on a single screen.

[–] virku@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What data format is easy to read if it fills more than the entire screen?

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago

what kind of config file is short enough to fit on a single screen with line breaks?

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My biggest gripe is that human eyes cannot in fact see invisible coding characters such as tabs and spaces. I cannot abide by python for the same reason.

[–] ReCursing@lemmings.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can set those things to be visible in many editors. Its ugly tho

[–] rolling_resistance@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Until you're doing an online course in a simplistic web editor. Don't ask me how I know 🥲

[–] ReCursing@lemmings.world 1 points 1 year ago

How do you... Oh sorry

But yeah that sounds unpleasant

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The language should just let me specify which character I want for that. I would use ">".

[–] ReCursing@lemmings.world 2 points 1 year ago

That'd be an editor thing rather than a language thing, I would have thought. It's probably configurable in some

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

It would be a compiler directive, I think. Or let me type "end if" and just disregard the coding indentation

[–] Flipper@feddit.org 3 points 1 year ago

We're we are going we don't need any comments.

[–] Redex68@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't know much apart from the basics of YAML, what makes it complicated for computers to parse?

[–] lime@feddit.nu 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

the spec is 10 chapters. everything is unquoted by default, so parsers must be able to guess the data type of every value, and will silently convert them if_they are, but leave them alone otherwise. there are 63 possible combinations of string type. "no" and "on" are both valid booleans. it supports sexagesimal numbers for some reason, using the colon as a separator just like for objects. other things of this nature.

[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, the classic "no" problem of YAML. But the addition of the comments is very nice.

Sometimes it's a space, sometimes its a tab, and sometimes it's two spaces which might also be a tab but sometimes it's 4 spaces which means 2 spaces are just whack And sometimes we want two and four spaces because people can't agree.

But do we want quotes or is it actually a variable? Equals or colon? Porque no los dos?

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Those formats are not for humans to read or write. Those are for parsers to interpret.