Friend, it's not that this is a fact, it's that you brought it into the conversation. It's also genuinely not all men either, the problem is that every time a woman speaks up there's a chorus of men ready to respond "Not All Men" instead of actually listening.

[–] Mustard@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago

This criticism only really works when it's a woman speaking of their personal experience with men, not when it's someone making a generalisation about all men.

Nothing was brought into the conversation, it was an all men/ not all men thing from the beginning.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I am listening, I think it’s a case by case basis and generalizations just alienate people instead of making them empathetic or sympathetic.

I also know that people tend to downplay women’s concerns as part of misogynistic histories, so I am mindful of that too. I do my part to speak up against these kinds of patterns when I see them

Edit I am just giving my pov, I wish there was a way to know which approach is more helpful.

Edit 2 but yeah, I tend to generalize too, so I get the need to do it when something annoys you enough

[–] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

Youre not wrong, I'm in a lot of trans circles and their type of thinking tends to be detrimental to trans men, or at least extremely isolating.

But hey anyone that tries to enforce a gender divide is gonna have to encourage division somehow