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Starfield on PC is the best way to play - but the game still requires a lot of work
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I can not see that. This game is the most polished game Bethesda has ever released in my 29 years of playing Bethesda games since Arena. It's just as polished as Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom. I'm 35 hours in and have barely scratched the surface, but I had only one crash and that was because my graphics card had a hiccup (driver update fixed it).
Its not bugs but QoL issues. Stuff like inventor management, map interface, triple loading screens, basic HDR support, absent FoV sliders, no DLSS support etc.
It is a great game, but has a lot of baffling QoL problems
"It’s just as polished as Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom."
Sorry, I can only laugh so much at such a pathetic claim.
You can disagree with someone without saying that their opinion is pathetic.
I guess the Zelda franchise isn't what it used to be then?
And that's just the stuff from the top of my head after about 100 hours. I definitely had not that much and not that severe issues with Skyrim, Oblivion, Morrowind, or Fallout 3. Kinda hoped there would be a patch for some of this stuff already.
It only takes it off in settlements. The toggle specifically says so. That's not a bug.
Not sure what you mean by "stuck," but if it's the quest I think you're talking about you have to shoot them until they ragdoll. I thought downing them was enough, but apparently the game wants you to fully incapacitate them.
ah yep that quest was another time I dissapointed the follower woman by forgetting about the EM gun and summary executing the affected people
Then why are crew members taking theirs off on the ship?
I mean that the bar didn't fill up at some point no matter how much I blasted them.
Ask the devs. Ships aren't settlements, I guess. They take their space suits off on habitable planets, but you still keep yours on. If you go to the helmet section the toggle says "breathable areas." It's not a bug, just a weird decision.
I don't know what that means. There isn't a bar to fill up, you just shoot them to "death."
I literally have had none of those issues in my 40+ hours of playtime. Not even those usual creation engine bugs with NPCs walking through furniture or getting stuck in walls or so. In fact, I only now encountered my first bug: A digipick puzzle was shown incorrectly.
The weirdest thing is that I didn't experience any graphical glitches, even though my graphics card is below the minimum specs (RX 5600 XT).
Now that I can't believe. Morrowind and Skyrim have been Buggy shitfests on release (can't speak for oblivion because I didn't play that on release)
90% of what you are experiencing is due to a slow HD not loading assets fast enough. I have it installed on a NVMe and have had no issues like this.
It's installed on a Samsung 970 Evo Plus M.2 SSD. If you think that's too slow then I think you have no idea what you're talking about.
It's not, but it doesn't rule out that there may be an issue with your setup.
Ah, yes, those magical issues that only affect one single game. Your entire argument that the described problems are almost all symptoms of a slow HDD is already an incredibly stupid argument to make but I guess you have to dig yourself further in with it after being proven wrong.
You are the only one here with this laundry list of issues, most of your problems stem from texture streaming issues due to a bottleneck on your system. Whether it's the CPU, Hard Drive or GPU is for you to figure out.
If texture streaming is bottlenecked by my cpu then the game already has failed to use my hardware proper.
So you admit your CPU is a bottleneck on your system. Sounds like you figured out the problem, not sure how that is Bethesda's fault, should they be responsible to buy you a new CPU so you can play the game properly?
Wow. That's not just a completely broken reading comprehension but also straight up mental gymnastics. Maybe get that head out of Bethesda's ass so you get some oxygen to think straight again.
Yeah not my experience either. One point you made about the armory items not moving to cargo is not accurate. I have done that twice actually and each time my mantis gear and Livingstone pistol remained in cargo. Possible big with a particular armory piece or maybe you had a full cargo hold? I just know there is more to it than that
Full cargo is irrelevant, it stuffs items in there anyway, for example from your captains locker in the cockpit. You can find this issue through a quick google search.
I’m loving the game, but I’ve had characters pop in and out of spaces, through walls/doors, models that shake uncontrollably. There’s a bunch of issues with some planets having no breathable air and companions aren’t wearing a suit. Buildings with no air locks on one side that have airlocks on the other. I picked up an item that inexplicably was on the door, to move it back to where it was supposed to be, and got instantly arrested….There is a ton of things to patch.
Agreed, I've had a lot of NPC jank, sometimes items in the environment fall out of place randomly. I had a bug where I couldn't land on Porrima III for a quest, I had to go to some other planets in the system, try to save, quit the game, come back, and it let me.
I sometimes wonder that people are so lax on the definition of a bug that they might say Starfield isn't buggy. It has not been like game breakingly buggy, aside from my quest bug if that had kept up, but it's certainly got a lot of low level bugs that amount to a reasonable bit of jank.
I had a couple game breaking bugs. Once I entered a building and the entire screen was very dark. I could not see anything with a flashlight, and could not turn around and leave. I had to reload. I also found a quest to mine 14 minerals, but the last one couldn’t be mined. The former wasn’t a big deal, but the mining bug drove me nuts.
The floor at one of the spaceports just fully disappeared permanently for me, and bounties seem bugged in that they are not removed even after killing all witnesses. One of the transport pods in the main city is also just permanently gone. This is on top of all the issues you pointed out!
There is a massive need for QoL improvements. Clicking the left mouse button for more than .1 seconds fires off a shot. I can’t count the number of times I have accidentally started a fight in a city. Also, no one cares as long as no one is hit. Really takes the immersion out of the game. Regardless, I’m really enjoying the the game. It needed more time.
Do you not just put your weapon away in cities? Ive accidentally drawn my weapon, but the draw time is long enough that I realize and just holster it again instead. You could also just select the weapon in your favorites again and it should unequip it.
My reaction time is pretty slow. I’m older. Good idea to unequip though. I’ll do that going forward.
If youre on PC you can hold R and it will stow the gun.
Stowing it isn’t enough for me. I’m slow and if I hold the mouse button for .5 seconds it brings up the gun and fires a round before it recognizes I’m not longer holding the button. I wish it had a slight “dead zone” when holstered.
Ah okay, I understand now.
The animation for bringing up the gun is at least 1 second.
But the animation and firing the first shot continue after letting go of the mouse button. Try it.
I did before my first reply. It was 1 second. It may be a PC vs console thing though, I'm playing on PC.
I might be holding the button for 1 second. I'm still not thrilled with the way it works. I wish they made it one click to unholster your weapon, and a second click to start firing.
What are you going to do, prove that they aren't getting older and slower? Lol
I'm pretty sure I'm proving they're getting even slower than they think?
Lol yeah true
I had to save scum the groundpounder mission because I got soft locked multiple times because an enemy ran off and unloaded before I could kill them to proceed with the mission.
Also, depending on the location, I've had multiple CTDs that required constant quick saving otherwise I'd have to do the same conversation repeatedly (Looking at you, GalBank in Akila City).
Yes, it is the most polished Bethesda game, but no, it is not "just as polished as TotK". I'm sorry but that's blatantly untrue.
Sorry man, that's just what my gaming experience so far has been.
LMAO
You need to learn what the term "polished" means.
I've experienced 3 major bugs.
The boss battle on the Lock for the pirates quest line. The boss bugs out and disappears somewhere, and you either have to reload an old save, or use console commands.
The adoring fan just deleted themselves, and can't get them back. Even with console commands.
My ship disappears nearly every time I load up.
I'm fine with it tbh. No where near what I experienced with Cyberpunk. I'm thoroughly enjoying Starfield.
Huh, that's weird. Especially the disappearing ship in connection with the disappearing fan. I know of a bug someone posted where their crew just vanished, and it turned out that they are standing outside their spaceship, but only when in space.
Frankly, I'd assume those two are connected. The adoring fan is glitched somewhere into you ship. You load the game, collision detection during load-up gets a hiccup and the ship falls through the floor or something.
What's even more weird is that I literally do not have any of this stuff happening, even the boss battle in the lock was fine. I expected to see usual creation engine bugs like NPCs glitching through objects, and yet I don't even see that happening. I only now encountered my second bug, now 51 hours in: in the ballroom of the siren of the seas, I get some flickering black bars from the structure outside in space. Except for that one crash and visual bug in a digipick game, that's all the bugs I had.
Yeah I'm fairly certain it's connected. I believe it may have something to do with modding the ship, the adoring fan, and too many characters on the ship.
The adoring fan is just gone, like straight deleted, doesn't show up on my crew screen, and can't bring him up with console commands.
It's alright though, he was starting to bug, and he's a shit companion anyway.