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[–] where_am_i@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, the brightest minds instead of building useful tech to fight climate change, spend their life building vanity AI projects. Computational resources instead of folding proteins or whatever are wasted on some gradient descent of some useless model.

All while working class wages are stagnant. And so your best career advice is to go get a random tech degree so you could also work on vanity stuff and make money.

This is cryptocurrency equivalent. It's worse than CEOs buying yachts. The latter actually leads to some innovation.

[–] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Succesfully creating an actual AGI would be by far the biggest and most significant invention in the human history so I can't blame them for trying.

[–] where_am_i@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A bunch of people fine-tuning an off-the-shelf model on a proprietary task only to fail horrendously will never lead to any progress, let alone AGI.

So, nobody is trying AGI.

If all those people would actually collectively work on a large-scale research project, we'd see humanity advance. But that's exactly my point.

[–] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

"Nobody is trying AGI" is simply just not true. If you think what they're doing will never lead to AGI, then that's an opinion you're free to have, but it's still just that; an opinion. Our current LLM's are by far the closest resemblance of AGI that we've ever seen. That route may very well be a dead end but it may also not be. You can't know that.

[–] where_am_i@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh gosh, look, an AI believer.

No, LLM will not lead to AGI. But even if they did, applying existing tech to a new problem only to fail cuz you're dumb at estimating the complexity does not, in fact, improve the underlying technology.

To paraphrase in a historical context: no matter how many people run around with shovels digging the ground for something, it will never lead to an invention of the excavator.

[–] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Ad hominem and circular reasoning isn't a valid counter-argument. You're not even attempting to convince me otherwise, you're just being a jerk.