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[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you don't realise why killing political support for your cause is bad, by all means, keep doing what you're doing. If you want to affect real change, be nice to the people from whom you want votes. Democracy requires discussion and compromise. Pissing on your allies does the opposite of what you want.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay, but we have DECADES of proof that shoenthat way hadn't worked.

You can keep talking about "bring nice" all you like and take the high road, but it just does not work.

[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That democracy doesn’t work that way? Okay, if convincing people to vote for your cause doesn’t work in a democracy, how does it work?

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

After decades of protesting "the right way" how many seats do the greens have? How many votes? How many people care enough about the environment that they would actually change who they vote for based off their climate policy?

Do you think the people getting red in the face over a 5 minute delay in their car would have changed their vote if we had just aked them nicely?

[–] letsgo@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For me the biggest problem with the Greens is that they don't talk about a realistic lifestyle that achieves their climate aims. As far as I can tell they just want us to sit around in forests banging rocks together and going "ug". It's all no to this, no to that, and no positive suggestions about anything.

Edit: oh and another thing it's because of those wankers that fuel taxes and taxes on taxes are so fucking high.