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[–] Bonifratz@lemm.ee 207 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Trump suggested that restraint would be unfair since his Democratic critics are “getting personal all night long.”

This shows why it was paramount that the Democrats left the "high road". Trump has no clue how to react when someone finally hits back at the bully.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 103 points 3 months ago

Baiting Trump to keep doing the thing that his voters are starting to hate because he can't shut his damn mouth is so funny I'm actually surprised the dems are doing it.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 80 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Seriously. When did "don't fight back" ever work against a bully?

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 months ago (4 children)

It's all about principles and turning the other butt cheek like good people do, as if that was going to convince the bully that their way is wrong...

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 42 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It's not about convincing Trump, it's about getting the Independents to vote.

Dems won with Biden in 2020, so they figured that he'd be fine in 2024.

If something worked for a long time, people are reluctant to try something new.

I myself was leery of Biden dropping out, and I was shocked by the Kamala surge.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I'm not talking Biden or Kamala or Trump or who needs to come out and vote, I'm talking about the way more progressive people act in general, they believe people who are harsh and disrespectful just need to be shown a better way because if progressives can be good people so can anyone else, just like bad people project unto others their own faults (if I can imagine myself doing X, it means everyone could do the same, the best example being all people who committed election fraud being Republicans when they're the ones acusing the Democrats of doing it).

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't know why so many democrats think themselves into closed boxes like this. Biden was a very poor candidate from the beginning, and was one of the worst candidates chosen from the original primaries. He (and the democrats) nearly blew the 2020 election, and were only saved by Trump's massive failures with COVID-19.

I mean, go back to Obama selecting this man and people hated the guy. I recall people ranting and pleading with Obama to pick someone else.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

The Dems do this because the Left stays away from the process and then [possibly] shows up on election day.

AOC jumped in with both feet and got herself elected. And seen plenty of people rage on her because she didn't set herself on fire to fight the Dem leadership.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I hear ya. Turning the other cheek is important. But God also killed Jobs family.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm fond of the Gnostic view.
I don't believe in any of it, but it makes more sense.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Eh, hedging your bets? 🤘🏽🤣

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago

It's an old maneuver, but it checks out. 🤌🏾

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm not sure that idiom is what you think it is.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's proper manners to sneak a cheek when you fart in public

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We should collectively refer to that as a "Giuliani", IMHO.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Nah, a Giuliani is when you shit yourself so bad it starts leaking out your head.

The one cheek sneak is normal and acceptable.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

It was a joke butt thanks

[–] USSMojave@startrek.website 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Lol turning the other cheek is not about your butt, it's for if someone slapped your face, so you turn your face to give them the other cheek to slap

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)
[–] USSMojave@startrek.website 1 points 3 months ago

You're welcome!

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Makes me think the person that made up that rule was a bully themselves.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 months ago

She didn't make up that rule. It existed in school long before the Obama's were in politics.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Right? I was taught to not start fights, but if someone wants to attack me and mine, to make sure that I finish that fight. I get wanting to be the bigger person, so to speak, but at least defend yourself.

[–] suction@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Also he will never be able to turn the tables and take the high road because he’s trash. Trash with enough money to impress Americans, but he’ll never be able to speak or act like a truly classy person.