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In 4 things white people can do to start making the fediverse less toxic for Black people (DRAFT!) and its cross-posts, quite a few people said things like "maybe racism is a problem on Mastodon, but I don't see it on Lemmy." Of course, plenty of comments in the various threads were in fact examples of racism on Lemmy, so one takeaway is that at lot of people don't see racism even when they're looking at it. And helpful commenters pointed out some of the other patterns of racism on Lemmy. ... but that wasn't really the thrust of that discussion.

So I wanted to ask more generally, what are some of the examples you've seen of racism on Lemmy? Quotes and links are great, but also feel free just to describe examples or call out more general patterns!

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[–] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Most people cannot see lemmygrad

[–] UnH1ng3d@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's defederated from .world, the largest Lemmy instance.

[–] UnH1ng3d@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks. I'm still learning how Lemmy works 😅

[–] Drewfro66@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sounds like a .worlder problem

[–] Chozo@fedia.io -1 points 1 year ago

Lemmygrad being blocked is not a problem for anybody.

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Statrek website banned me for down voting

[–] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

.world censors left-wing instances

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy.world nor any other instance on the fedi can remove content on another instance without the consent of federation, even then those actions can be undone by the site admin.

.world defederating from you doesn’t mean censorship. People disagreeing with your opinion and opting not to see it is not censorship.

[–] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's the literal definition of censorship.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually censorship is a centralized process of editing information channels to ensure certain topics aren’t published through those channels.

Censorship is a step in a publication pipeline. At least traditionally.

Simply shutting down sources would be “suppression” and choosing not to look at certain things is “willful ignorance”.

Sorry if that seems too pedantic, but you invoked the concept of literalness.

[–] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago
[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Lemmygrad is infamous for hosting hate speech.

Being too left wing is not why Grad was deplatformed by everyone outside of the Marxist-Leninist circles.

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

[citation needed]

[–] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So infamous that you can't link a single example

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sorry I haven’t visited a hate site recently, you can wade through it if you’re really curious.

[–] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] AchtungDrempels@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/4500234

Does this qualify? I did not follow anything on lemmygrad, only the pigeon community, but i don't anymore so this is all i could think of.

[–] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Racist against germans? Really?

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Racism is racism. Unless you want to get technical and quibble about whether Germans are a “race” or not, that comment is pretty clearly inciting violence against a certain people as such.

[–] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

Yeah the people carrying out another genocide

[–] AchtungDrempels@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I did not say it was racist. The definition of hate speech i read up included national origin as a target, but i guess there is no clear cut definition.

My personal scale says that i don't want to hang out in a group where people say stuff like that and being upvoted for it, even if it is against germans.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the pointer.